USF4 | Stream Commentary Thread

Yes, but rarely would they end in time outs because players could more deeply capitalize on knockdowns. DWU slowed the game down, it didn’t end Oki of course. It just slowed it down dramatically. That’s all I was saying. Typically after a knockdown rose might end the match with a U2 setup. Fei might have some crazy ambiguous crossup / unblockable, zangief could put you into the grinder with throw/cross up stuff.

Even without the actual setups loss (as we all know there are DWU setups too.) the extra time on DWU just killed momentum in a lot of matches and many characters were doing less damage overall.

All I’m saying is, USF4 slowed the game down a lot leading to more time outs at the highest level of play. Especially in regards to footsie matches since damage conversion from footsies is relatively low in this game. This is simply a fact. Whether or not it’s for the better is not the discussion. I really enjoyed the Snakeeyez matches for example and those ended in time out more than any of them.

But it IS slower and DWU does affect momentum. That is simply not up for debate.

It also helped that those matchups were in roses favor. And he avoided 2 bad matchups rufus and ibuki. But he did play incredibly well. I thought those Japanese players underestimated rose. Specifically the ones that had that round table discussion. I would definitely put rose in top10.

Sabin should have his stream up as well as Canada cup on twitch.

So happy for Luffy.
Incredible to think that a Rose player is EVO Champion.

I’m a proud Rose player right now.

I’m so glad that the GF was between 2 players who have been character specialists/loyalists since 2009. No tier whoring, no counterpicking. Just pushing a character to its limits.
Luffy has always been a killer. Remember, he was already beating Daigo in tournaments in 2010 when he was utterly dominating. His sense of spacing and timing are just top notch, in the past he only really lost to vortexes.

Since when DWU was confirmed for USF4 my first thought was "well, now who’s going to stop Luffy?"
well…

Ibuki isn’t actually a bad matchup for Rose, he also won against 2 known Ibukis earlier, Sonyono & EX Pugera.

Gosh, I love the yearly evo balance debate aftermath. Rose thread is already pure gold.

Surprised no one’s giving them shit for the worst announcement ceremony in the history of gaming. At first i was annoyed with these words, now i think iv’e grown to hate the two words “stay tuned.”

Louffy was the best player of USFIV EVO 2014 and he deserves the win with a good but fair character. There’s 2 Rose players in top 64.

So a player, who uses a good but unfair character doesn´t deserve to win EVO, even if he were the best player?

I also hate it, when people try to establish certain characters as “fair” or “honest”.

The problem is that every character who wins evo becomes unfair.

Ever since Rose is won EVO, i started calling her broken, stream monster logic at it’s best. <3

Focus tech back dash for Rose is… well, unfair would be too strong a word… but fucking awesome would be an understatement.

Louffy was already doing well even in AE so those few extra buffs and changes to the game and the situation was ripe for him. So happy for him and Rose players in general…

Now just hoping that Yun players get left alone.

Crazy top 8 and finals. To people talking about Rose, Louffy won because A) He’s a really good player. B) Rose vs Sagat is a tough matchup. C) Bonchan looked really inexperienced/afraid at the matchup.

I really hope Rose doesn’t get the Gen treatment, people need to just let the game breathe here.

On the other hand, Sagat still sucks.

oh where are the DWU preacher after all this timer scam top8 ? my motivation to continue and watch the finals was gone when Sako got eliminated, just slept away watching fei long and rose , had to catch the vod on the morning

as much as am happy for EU and louffy ( he really deserv it, despit my hate for his character ) this top 8 was no where near as exciting as the previous EVOs

Fuudo’s constant timer scams (and reverse timer scams) were hilarious though.

I fucking loved it. /shrug

First match in a week online and my Sagat came up against a Rose player. Shit was surreal, destroyed him and sent bonchan the link to the replay…

Also amazing is the amount of total randoms after an evo. Give Capcom shit but they attract players like fly’s on a turd.

I fully expect anti Rose tech to pop ASAP.

Just like last year with Xian and Gen.

This was a fun EVO. Props to everyone who made it happen.

Pugera came the closest to taking out Louffy.

Rose’s back dash and meter build are a little bit too good. So far ultra seems to be the perfect game for her.

Difference with Rose is that more than half the cast can’t do shit against the backdash even if you had dhalsims fingers.

She’s fine though, she shouldn’t be touched, its not her fault she uses the mechanics well.