I think Mullets are respected in Japan. I heard they are known as “wolf hair” there.
Ken is American, he should be aware of this not being sociably acceptable here. While it’s party in the back, it’s not all business up front. …more like a casual get together. Super SF4 is set a year in the future. That’s plenty of time to even it out.
I do that all the time on multiple people, @ every tournament I get the chance its actually pretty free on balrog like 100% almost.
The reason they don’t do it? I have no idea, someones not exactly going to jump on you majority of the time,especially when you have meter and a ultra. Maybe they don’t know about it? Anyway what Ken players do you usually see on nicovideo or youtube? They are usually average or horrible(imo). Only good ones are like Dragon Boy, Strike and Emilio and they don’t have many videos of themselves as it is.
It works good as long as you crouch and do it late similar to akumas AA Demon.
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You can’t read - Didn’t say anything about not having a fix.
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You can fix it and it still having the same properties - Dumbass.
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Just because they’re lack of Ken videos and you don’t know shit, you say it’s automatically not viable
that’s hilarious.
that’s hilarious.1)Lack of ken videos?problably less than other chars since they are more popular and more used but i dont see lack of ken videos
2)If you fix it then every jump in on ken will be fierce shoryu fadc full ultra and this is too much imo,the problem actualy,as you prolly know, is that if you miss the timing you can get clearly beat by a jump in normal and eat a 50% combo
3)sarcasm
Alwasy that aggressive because someone thinks different from you?let me get this straight plz
So you say that every time you try to do an AA fierce shoryuken you never get beated by a normal?Maybe I should try to use more the shoryu shorcuts(df,d,df)
I watch all the videos you guys problably watched
just for the records [media=youtube]JrkNltkqKGM[/media] This is a “good one” like you mentioned
2.39,no fierce shoryuken full ultra but maybe that was an attemp to an ultra
If you do it correctly either you get it the floaty uppercut or you just get this no damage shoryu. Its like 1 hit thats it. Thats why i said crouch and late dp it, similar to [media=youtube]dwbO1ZVvyQI#t=2m49s"[/media]. (It doesn’t work on Akuma or Rufus’s dive kicks well, or atleast I can’t do it good enough where I would do it in a match.)
And @ 2:39 there he did a Ex srk, you can only get the full ultra off using the regular fierce. I disagree with many things they do too, maybe its the same I dunno. There is more then one way to skin a cat @ the end of the day anyway.
MagnetoManiac, you’ve been criticizing me and everyone else in this thread. If you’re not going to contribute, get the fuk out.
you girls need to settle this in the ring.
ye i know but why not trying the fierce shoryuken,he has prolly predicted that move to chip him,plus he needed a desperation comeback.Also the fierce shoryuken against that shit that rufus does works legit.I also disagree with some things they do, when i saw the video i get spoilered about the amazing comeback and when ken was in that situation i tought"messiah random-> fp.sho fadc full ultra" but he won on his own:badboy:
Knee bash with ST properties and lesser damage so we can have crossup fun, 3S ish mp hp functionality so your spacing doesn’t have to be as precise. I would also like his roll back.
He’d be a crossup nightmare with that shit.
I love your shit MagnetoManiac but calm it down. Even though the other dude might be wrong, dont bash his ass on the first post where he just says his opinion. He is right that, I have never seen a Japanese ken do it, but It seems to work fine for Dr. I hate random bullying and swearing while the other does nothing though :
Can someone delete the posts? Very good discussion into 1 full page of beef. lol
And Dr.Chaos, that list looks really good. Im seriously probably the only ken that does not really care about his walking speed though lol. I dont even notice it, unless im a really slow character. But everyone seems to suggest it, so I guess its important.
Are you gonna send this in a mail to SF4 like some others did? Edma already had a bit, but a lot is added here. We could add The ken SRK community fully agrees with it.
What about his forward RH though? The one that hits backwards. A bit faster maybe? or make it hit twice. Or his B+FK, is pretty damn slow as well, but I guess fine.
@lol At slimz two times double post : D
Edit: I guess I do slightly agree that if the fierce is 100% fixed, that we’d probably always can get a FADC full ultra off, seeing as its not that hard to fierce someone (If it did not get beaten by RH that much for me) But so can ryu and others. This would then kinda be the only reliable way to get a full ultra. Ryu can do it without FADC. Rufus wiht his target combo. Balrog with a headbutt.
I mean its just one thing added to Ken that his ultra can be used well for then
btw i think i didnt use a good english lol.That “it should be tricky like is now” was related to the AA fierce shoryuken fadc full ultra and not in general regarding the full ultra
Then he started random rage links…like if that shit wasnt the first one i tried when i got my copy of the game lol
Great analysis Ch0az. Lol gettin in brownie points with Yoshi Ono huh.?? thats a good sign for kens out there.
Yeah i was also gonna ask will some of the contents of this thread be sent to capcom, so some of these changes could possibly take place. i kno thats the purpose of this thread but will it be sent.??
Good list by the good Doctor. 
Everything looks pretty solid. With Kara Focus, I just think they can’t afford to add any range or speed to Ken’s focus attack. He would be able to nail fireballers less than Sagat from half screen.
Hopefully they add the crazy kicks. If they functioned like they do in ST, then we could use the RH kick for a quick knockdown. Maybe make it do less damage than a shoryu, but, since you don’t fly into the air, you get a little more time to set up your oki even when the opponent decides to quick rise.
The MK kick would be kinda like a pseudo Tatsu, since it leaves you close to the opponent afterward, but doesn’t knock down. Maybe it will have a few more frames of advantage (no more than +2 obviously), but does way less stun and damage than a tatsu (But it atleast hits crouchers). Finally… the LK kick… um… links to super? I dunno. I was never really good with this one back in the day. 
I think we should go into depth with what we want from the crazy kicks should they be added, so we don’t end up with a useless one. What commands would we want? If they were like HDR, how would we EX them? Or would the EX command just do an entirely new crazy kick (possibly that f.RH from a3 Dr.C was talking about earlier)? Just putting some stuff out there. If we do end up sending anything to Ono, I want it to be as complete as possible. That way, if anything is messed up, we can always say it wasn’t our fault.
Ex Crazy kick = A3 kick is gold!
Joon update the first post now! :looney:
Since we are saying random shit here, give Ken his Alpha roll…
Heres to hoping for Shipp? Jinrai Kyaku as the other Ultra :rock:
Make sure you add haircut to the main page. Because for serious, he needs one.
Thx guys for the input.
I just added #5 for little more damage on “Fake” Ultra. Are there any other specifics?
Agreed with all those… 2 points,
Would the Ultra better if it was mashable for damage ( like the old days, cut the kicks out) as ken users can “control” their damage output.
EX tatsu, should definetly juggle when hitting others in the air, should it also knockdown standing opponents as well like 3S?