USF4 Ken Improvement Thread (+EVO Result)

Anyone noticed the Ken’s Super is altered?

Ken’s Signature move - Shouryuu Reppa is always QCF,D,DF+P (as far as I can remember in SF2T, SFA, and even in CVS2). Current move is QCFx2+P, which is same as Ryu’s Shinku Hadouken

Ken and Ryu Super is totally different, one is Dragon Punch, and the other is Fireball, why SF4 altered Ken’s move to QCFx2 really puzzles me.

In SFT2, SFA, CVS2 is much easier to execute, and somehow it was way diffcult to execute until I tried in Training mode and I found my regular style of executing Shouryuu Reppa always end at DF+PPP (not end with F+PPP).

I wish they will change back Ken’s execution of Ultra to QCF+D+DF+P3, which is what Ken’s original execution anyway.

That doesn’t help AT ALL, being that you don’t even see Ken’s super in high level play. He uses too much meter for EX Tatsu or Shoryu FADC to have super. Usually, it’s only accidentally used when trying to hit confirm into a Fierce Shoryu. WTF, dood?

That’s just a case of “Learn to get it down,” not “Ken’s not competitive, fix it, Capcom!”

I understand, I too want him to keep what makes him unique.

Yea cause that one was only Edma’s opp, which was the first bigg USA Ken player though, so he knows what hes doing. That list actually was pretty good… There was one though which had weird suggestions for Ken, or im just daydreaming >_>

And yea a full list update, of what we here at SRK think would be awesome to, to add to that Ken stuff.

Although yea, he already confirmed every char is getting frame data fixes, and even new specials, so my worries of it not happening are gone, plus ono seems to listen to the community so thats awesome. We secretly need to expend the list with other good stuff while we still can! << >>!

And yea I wanna fight you to, I see you on the ken forum a lot. Although I really need to improve a lot before im good with Ken, and because I use a pad I can’t really kara throw either lol. I need to work on crouching links, but that aside =D

I just recently moved to stick a few months ago, but I could Kara throw like a bitch on pad. :stuck_out_tongue: People would message me “What kind of stick you use?” I’d be like 'XBOX 360 PAD, SON!" And they’d just send “LOL” It was great.

But yeah… Stick wins… Mostly… :wink:

Now, not EVERY character got new moves as the revisions went on (poor poor Guile… And I guess us Ken players, too. :stuck_out_tongue: )

What new move would we want for Ken? I can’t really see him getting anything. I guess if they DID bring back the Ryusenkyaku (wheel kick from CvS2), since it knocks down, it would a little different from Abel’s kick dealie. But it would have to either stay really low to the ground or it would have to be a focus breaker. In all honesty, I’d rather it be a focus breaker than Tatsu, since Ken’s tatsu already hits multiple times pretty fast, it’s kinda useless as a focus breaker. :stuck_out_tongue:

But what do you guys think Ken will get as a new move… If any…

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I think if anything is added, it would be Ryusenkyaku.

Electric-shoryuken : P

I can’t really imagine what they’ll give him. Maybe upgrade a move, that it’ll go into 2 hits (I still want one of those ;-:wink:

And yea I can kinda kara on the pad, but I put grab to A. I cant do shit with Akuma now lol, everytime I light tatsu it goes to a grab, but oh well.

Give him a kara ultra =D lol jk that’ll be useless, maybe as surprise. Eh idk.

a button as grab? How do you c.lk hit confirm? Maybe you should map that over your 3 kicks button or something instead? This probably belongs in the regular Ken thread. :stuck_out_tongue:

To stay on topic:

Did Ken ever have any other moves in any of the other games he was in outside of SF?

CvS2 : Ryusenkyaku, Zenpou Tenshin (I think that’s what the roll was called)
Alpha 3: "Slam your self on the ground move"
Anything else?

Goddammit, I’m a retard.

Crazy Kicks… WTF is wrong with me…? I’ve been online too long.

  • remove some damage in the shinryuken’s grund animation and add it to the flame animation

-b+mk hits tiwce

-ex hado kd

to me faster dash and better ultra are the first on the list

YEEE al those things could be stopped by a jab in a jabby game,welcome mixup

Very situational,but sometimes turn out the match

His A3 f.rh was pretty good but maybe that pushing it. I can make a new thread or Max doesn’t matter. I’m @ work now though.

Ken should be faster and more dangerous, more like ST. I agree with raeli & max.

And he needs a new haircut… mullet FTL.

Some chars have maybe good advantages and bad(AND)stupid weakness

wat?rly?
ok… Ken is designed with zero sense except for his kara throw and ex air tatsu(still present in other games)

What would the command be for SSFIV? Would step kick move to f+lk, step overhead f+mk, and step roundhouse to f+rh? I’m with you on that kick. It’s nice. Maybe they could just change his regular RH into that f+RH from A3. That would be fulfilling the “more range on RH” from our previous list. :smiley:

We’ll have to talk to a mod first, since they posted that sticky about all the threads and repeat threads popping up. I just think we’ll get more clout if they see US Dragonboy as the OP, instead of someone with half a bar of neg rep. (Again, no offense, Joon).

We are more so working on game mechanics. But, if anything, they should just make his hair more so resemble his SF3 counterpart.

Super Art III

also ken focus attack sux and there will be no changes to any focus attack according to this,just smaller frame data adjusting

Give ken his 3s normals, his standing medium kick and his ‘two hit’ backwards medium kick and have his EX tatsu JUGGLE. FFS.

Thats all he needs imo. & less retarded looking hair… yep.

edit Oh shit yeah how could I forget, GIVE HIM HIS FUCKING KNEE BASH! :smiley:

haha hilarious… only thing I would like is a quicker focus attack for ken… that’s about it… is that too much to ask? if so… I’ll shut up haha

To all the people saying that we want ken to basically turn into ryu. look at what were saying we dont want tatsu knockdown, we dont want a faster fireball, we dont want a faster sweep, all we want is what suits ken best which is.

faster walk speed, faster srk startup, knockdown on first hit of all srk’s, less frames on overheads., -1 frame on hk tatsu,(i shouldnt ultra’d by zangief bcuz i landed a big combo) come the fuck on people he’s supposed to be the king of the rushdown.

how is he gonna do that with some of the worst tools.?? srk whiffs if i catch your poke’s while your at a distance wtf is that.??

yes ken needs small tweaks to help fill those gaps in his matchups. not a big overhaul to make him hated even more. and i think he’ll get these things in ssf4

Ohh yeah improve dmg on ultra juggle, or give full anim.

(even though i kno we’ll have another ultra at our disposal =D.

NO on the alpha roll, abel has that one locked down bro. just improve his current tools.