But, but Quakecon!!!
I have lugged giant PC towers across the isle of Manhattan for nine man tournaments.
Half of the side tournaments that out numbered at least one official tournament at Evo were run on PC.
Do NOT get me started on what happened in 2008.
Steam will be a great thing for sales, more people will get to play the game, but if the game remains on the PC it will be a gigantic pain in the ass to run, and considering how straightforward tournaments are run now that’s asking alot. I’m not knocking PC players at all, in fact I’m happy for them, but the amount of bullshit that factors in for running tournaments for a PC fighter is why MBAACC is dead now.
The netcode is bad. Every version of the game that’s ever been on the pc has had a better netplay ‘mod’ / ‘executable’ created by members of the community. Every time. This will not change. UNiB’s netcode will god damn garbage.
Again, it would likely sell really well during Steam sales, but I’ll probably never see 85% - 90% of the folks who bought it a tournament, let alone be able to run it without much stress.
please…just…give me…mbhd
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There she is!
Quick put the rest of the Melty cast in there PLEASE
This game looks cool
Did anyone get the Arcadia Extra mook for this game yet? I’m saving up so I can get this and the one for Guilty Gear XX Accent Core Plus R as well.
…I do think PC release on the stream would be the safest route for sales and patches. It’s that people forget that fighting game don’t have esport money to run on PCs to begin with, lol.
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Yo, she hittin’ ‘em wit’ da dust of osiris, the middle of Egypt, nigga
I was hoping for the elimination of “elBOOOOOOOOOOOO” or at least turning the volume down, but oh well.
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The thing is that FPS gamers have been dragging Towers (GIANT fucking towers at that) to tournaments since the beginning. How hard could it be for an organizer to grab a few Towers or laptops, run a benchmark, and bring them to a tournament? It’s Melty Blood, they’re not going to need 100 systems. More like 4 tops.
And if the Devs make money and we don’t have a Skullgirls or Rolento Glitch situation where it takes forever for a patch to come out. Then what exactly is the problem other than dudes who can’t afford a decent PC?
- Edit: I have not read a single reason why that a PC only release is bad. All I’ve read is that 2-3 people don’t want PC only because… Casuals won’t be at tournaments and there’s problems that they haven’t explained.
As far as casuals not going to tournaments… Do you honestly expect the 1 million or so people who bought AE and downloaded the 2012 patch to be at every tournament? I don’t follow the logic.
And if PC only is such a pain in the ass as the minority claims, please explain why. The towers or laptops are too heavy? Lift some weights. Compatibility issues? Before the tournament happens, take a couple of PC’s and run casuals, maybe stream it to build the hype. The organizer(s) and the pro player(s) must be able to determine which system is solid or not. Computers are too big? Get a bigger table. Game crashes? Raise the issue with French Bread and get a patch going. Can’t find the USB switch? You can buy a USB hub for $5 and the chords are long enough to reach.
What is the excuse? Not being aggressive just to be aggressive but I really hate 2-3 guys spouting nonsense and other people think of it as the truth.
Except you’re just choosing to ignore the points that have been pointed out, and confirmed by other people.
PCs are a terrible pain in the ass. I’ll list you some more reasons (That you’ll probably ignore), keep in mind that these are my experiences from running tournaments on PC.
Some sticks won’t work without downloading and installing drivers (i.e. older ps3 TEs), which we don’t have access to install at the venue.
The average cost of a PC that will even run MBAACC properly is greater than that of a PS3.
Portability, you clearly have never run an event if you’re telling me to “lift weights” to alleviate the issue. I can fit six ps3s in my car in the space that one PC Tower would take up.
PS3 (or any other game console) hardware is standardized. This is actually the biggest thing for me. I’ve not run a mb tournament that hasn’t had one setup lagging behind the others. Without a doubt this will happen.
Space. We don’t have unlimited space at tournaments.
@ spouting nonsense. Yes, actual experience is certainly more nonsense than “lift weights if the computer is too heavy.”
Okay, you made a point about drivers for sticks. I give you that much. For the rest of your points:
Surely you must know 1-2 other people with a decent PC?
I’ve known guys who lug around towers in a backpack. You get no sympathy.
As far as standardized. Read what I said. Gather all the PC’s you have before the tournament (a few days before ideally) and TEST them out. Determine which among them can run the game best.
You can lay a tower on it’s side and put a monitor on top. They’re not much bigger than the old PS3 models. Failing that, hide them under the tables. You get no sympathy from me.
Let’s see here:
A new PS3/360 can be had for well below 300 dollars. A console will have standard hardware and you will know it just works. Insert game, plug a stick and do button config. Play. Switching controllers is no problem.
A decent PC to run this game would probably be over 300 dollars, tower or laptop. You WILL have a problem with peripherals on PC’s. For one, there are a lot of sticks/pads that may need the proper drivers (and in some cases, it doesn’t plain work!). For two, I have not known one fighting game on PC that can auto detect a controller and be available for button configuration without closing the game. After playing a match, if someone wants to use another stick, the game has to be closed, unplug needless sticks, plug the new ones, then sometimes (all the time in MB PC versions at least) do button config before the game starts.
With a game prospected to have less than three hundred active tournament players across America (most likely a small playerbase everywhere really, let’s be real), you’d be hard pressed to find people to bring PC’s to a tournament just for a particular game. Whereas consoles can be shared and used for a multitude of games. Hell, some tournament organizers have their own consoles and that removes the hassle of players bringing their own.
Towers in a backpack? Not much bigger than an old PS3? That must be a bigass backpack, or they bought specialized hardware to fit it in a standard backpack. Oh I know it’s possible to build mini-towers/cube PC’s. There are a lot of options for microATX and mini-ITX nowadays, but they are relatively more expensive. There’s also a big overlap between LAN party gamers and PC hardware enthusiasts, so they don’t mind spending much to show off their rigs as well as play games during the gathering. E-sports players at best bring their peripherals and the tournament provides the PC’s. Laptops (that should be capable of running fighting games) are just pricey right off the bat.
And all that ignores the most obvious difference: if you’re carrying a tower in a backpack to tournaments or lan parties, it’s because that tower has everything you want on it exactly the way you want it, and it’s the setup you’re used to playing on. Moreover, FPS and RTS games on PC are played one person to a setup, so it’s only natural. Fighting games are played two people to a setup, with constant connecting and disconnecting of peripherals after every set, and in most cases needing to exit out of the game to configure controls every time players change. It’s comparing apples to hedgehogs.
I’m looking at my PC tower.
This thing isn’t fitting in a backpack. Thinking about a lot of the towers that I’ve had people bring to events I’ve run, they’re not fitting into backpacks either!
A PC just over $300 will not run MBAACC properly. I’ve tried this with my media center (which ran me ~$350) If it doesn’t run MBAACC properly, I doubt it’s going to run UNIB properly.
Now let’s talk rhetoric, because it’s all you seem to have.
If I ask you to bring your $1000 PC to help me run a tournament, or I ask you to bring your $200 PS3 to help me run a tournament, which are you more likely to bring? You seem to think that people are jumping up and down to let me (or anyone else) just use their hardware for tournaments.
You also seem to be under the impression that I have access to all of the hardware people will be bringing to the event, ahead of time. This is absolutely not the case.
I’m going to ask you something. Unless you’ve run a major on a PC based FG, can you please stop trying to tell me any of this? Go organize an event, run it, and tell me how it works out. Right now, we have your make pretend hypothetical (and yes, hypothetically if I had 4 billion dollars I was sitting on, I could run a fantastic PC only tournament, but lets face it, this is UNIB, we’re not getting sponsored by Dreamhack for this shit), based on my multiple majors run on PC setups for MBAACC.
Also, I don’t want your fucking sympathy! Quit telling me I don’t have it.
I’m going to state this, and I don’t think anyone who’s rational is going to argue- If UNIB is PC only, the offline community is going to suffer. The tournament scene is going to suffer. It makes the game quite a bit more inaccessible.