So top 8 for Marvel at the Fighters Spirit 5 tourney was really fun. Got 2nd to Flocker at the tourney.
Marvel top 8 matches were from 4:30:00-4:34:00 and resumed again at 5:45:00
What was the score between Serp and Xian?
Serp took it 3-1.
16 man MAJOR
I came here to pay my respect.
Serp my polar opposite I have now found the BestPlayer.
The heat is on character loyalists who else can win a big 16?
from what Iâve seen, Serp is the only player who mains a Thor team that makes sense for Thor in terms of synergy and neutral game (as opposed to just 3 random characters or 2 characters for the sole purpose of putting together a kill combo). Thor feels pretty useless without Missiles as it gives him coverage and optimizes his damage. And heâs got his x factor in dorm.
Just watched the Serp vs Xian matches⌠good shit, Serp. The Thor vs Morrigan neutral game was looking alright.
It looked like Dorm was doing a lot of the work, but it was with meter Thor was building. And Thor was taking a lot of resources from Xian to deal with.
Yeah, Thormammu is a pretty good combo. You know whatâs also a killer unexplored combo? Thorrigan. Not to be fucked with.
I liked Serpâs play. I especially like that the he used the things he always says make Thor strong namely decent movement with Plink Dashing and a shit load of Mighty Spark.
So something interesting finally happened?
Thor still sucks. And why isnât xian running missiles?
Xian is running Missiles. He switched over quite a while ago.
smh at hypocrite
Thor can easily shit on zoning team
Missiles against thor means dead doom
Quite a few âlow tierâ characters do well against morrigan imo. Thor, Chris and Arthur being three of them. Problem is Morrigan teams will probably have Vergil in the back making any low tier counterpick pretty useless.
x/Doom/Vergil really reduces the counter pick aspect of the game because theres a few underplayed characters/shells that have the neutral game to beat Morridoom or magdoom, but those characters dont have the any good incomings to beat vergil. And then when he touches the ground he auto wins vs all the characters that do well against morrigan. Doom/Vergil kills the game the most for me. If there was no vergil, more people would be picking up Dorm/Dante imo, and that would create an interesting metagame. Then again everybody would probably just play Zero/Dante also.
I agree that some stranger, less well rounded teams do well against morrigan/doom. I know youâre a good morrigan player, but Iâm very surprised to see you mention arthur as being good against her when imo his only chance is a well timed level 3 to XF. These are the two characters I main, but at the same time I rarely get to play against others who use morrigan or arthur well so who knows. I also disagree about chris unless he has vajra, but I could at least see where youâre coming from here. I think skrull and strange are great against her, as well as hawkeye with assists. The thing is, morrigan/doom is powerful in a very unique way, so certain teams that are specialized to beat it will struggle against more standard teams. I feel like hawkeye with missiles, jam, or vajra does very well against morridoom, but the problem is it will likely struggle against wolverine, spencer, wesker, and maybe even jill. Weâve seen point dormammu teams put up a good fight against morridoom, but point dorm will get eaten alive by most prominent rushdown teams. And like you said, a lot of this can be avoided, by just switching in your third character.
I feel like Chris/Jam session does very well against her. Magnum shots going through two soul fists, hits assists + chrisâs health means its hard to win the war of attrition vs him.
Arthur doesnt destroy her or anything but he can put more durability on the screen than her and stop her from calling missiles. He doesnt have to worry about the threat of her punishing his armour break in any way so he can activate gold armour and chuck stuff pretty freely vs her. Being able to basically spam lances and crossbows vs her makes it tough to do much. Im talking about point arthur btw. Arthur on point activating gold armour, using up all his time filling the screen with stuff, then throwing out that axe projectile thing that allows for a safe hard tag for another anti morrigan character to come in like dormammu. Then you have gold daggers assist also.
Against chris, I feel like she wins if she simply just throws fireballs from super jump height. He wins in a horizontal war, but you donât have to play that game with him. I feel like she can also rush him down pretty well, especially with a horizontal assist. We donât really have any chris players around here though so maybe I just need to face a good one.
The idea of tagging out arthur before armor breaks is interesting, but in that scenario dorm would be doing most of the work. If morrigan just superjumps and blocks during the duration of gold armor rather than trying to contest it, she wonât get chipped to death or even close to it. Gold axe does not make a hard tag safe against characters with flight and/or air dashes, so your dorm is at risk of getting scooped up right away and arthur is dead on incoming if his armor is about to break. I actually play arthur on point, for a while it was my main team lol. Iâve beaten bad morridooms with my arthur who tried to contest gold crossbows and lances, but I havenât had the chance to run it against a good one. At the same time, I wouldnât be the least bit worried going up against a point arthur with my morrigan.
I used to think the Chris matchup was as easy as camping in the parts of the screen he cant reach but smart Chris players will adapt to this quickly. They can litter the ground below you with incendiary grenades and mines which limit you movement options and lock you down whilst dealing chip. If you try to escape by superjumping and air dashing out they can have a jam session assist call ready to hit you out of the sky and Chris can convert a jam session hit into death.
Tbh I dont think any of those characters really beat morrigan but they do do âwellâ vs her which is a heck of a lot better than most of the cast. They force her to change her gameplan up.
Iâm pretty certain Viper will eventually win the matchup vs. Morrigan who already has some of the best incoming options vs. Vergil also. Nova, Dante, Vergil, Chris and others with more optimized teams should be able to win vs. Morrigan eventually also.
Chris not having strong incoming vs. Dark Vergil is an issue but not a deal breaker. You can always just raw tag or DHC in a character that has stronger incoming options vs. Vergil. Doom/Vergil will show to be not quite the endest of game as time goes on.
Capcom is giving us 5 more years to do it any way. After the first 3 years itâs obvious weâll need it.