Hmm I guess we’ll just have to agree to disagree then lol. I just find that when I play Viper I don;t have to worry about whether I’ll scale the damage too much for the next DHC or whether or not I’m already in lummy body.
Apparently you don’t.
Before this thread gets even sillier, people should look at the tier list for MvC2 and use that as a base for how characters get judged. After you do all that please consider that the game has been out for all of 2 months; so no amount of discussion is really going to let us know how things fall into place.
That’ because Vipers damage scaling was untouched from Vanilla, and it was all kinds of fucked up in that game.
Point is, Vipers DHC’s are great for damage, but not much else, and DHC’s have a lot more uses than just damage.
Felicia’s mobility isn’t that bad? And with assist Felicia’s going to be in dat ass, so I’d say it’s relevant.
You can DHC into burst time to beat Genmu-Zero.
ehh?? nah
Well Viper can DHC to sphere flame with one of her hypers. I guess that is good 
I thought you were talking about Hsien-Ko, I need to read better.
DHC out of them is great. DHC into the is underwhelming, unless you like punching beams.
On a side note, I just played H&H with Hsien-Ko/MODOK/Sentinel with lots of cards to increase speed and block in air dash.
wtf capcom
H&H is ass. I played like 3 matches and it just made me sick.
my favorite pastime…if I were more than a funsies Viper player.
The Super SFIV tier list changed pretty much monthly as well so I don’t see why this is any different. If you’re looking for who’s going to be top tier a year from now…probably not the best thread. Nobody knows the answer to that but it’s probably not that bad to believe characters like Zero and Dorm will stay within the top tier a year from now I would say. Characters like Storm and Magneto were figured to be top tier or near top tier early during MVC2 also.
Still waiting for my epic story mode where your single character has to traverse through the world, rescuing characters, buffing them, adding them to your team and finally defeating uber god broken tier galactus. All while epic cinematic cutscenes detail me in the situation.
This would have been awesome…
MvC2 is so much more of a complex game too. This one really isnt hard at all to figure out or understand.
This is a perfect example of just how unsafe wolverine is, people give him far too much respect. You can’t just keep running at people because all these pressure paterns have holes in them large enough to punish, and in combination of relentless assist calling it gets you doubly blown up. Wolverine relies on this relentless behaviour to maintain momentum and keep pressure on the opponent but truth of the matter is this momentum is his biggest weakness people just aren’t punishing it correctly. People will step up their game eventually and learn.
Im not into the whole competitive smash thing. But I love playing it as a party game with friends when we are drunk and what not. I though Subspace Embissary, although stale and repetitive gameplay, the cut scenes made it entirely worth it
Especially this one
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Well MVC2 did also come out during a time before streams and youtube videos so that has a bit to do of why it took longer to figure out.
For the most part though this game was made to be easier to initially get into than MVC2 which is funny because MVC2 was basically put out as easier MVC1/MSFvSF/XMvSF etc.
All that really needs to be applied at this point is more knowledge and player base for the lesser used characters so we can see how they can rise towards the top or at least become counters to some of the surefire hot tiers.
Pretty sure he was talking about Hsien Ko there. Hsien Ko randomly has a command grab. Randomly.
Haggar always had very scary pressure and high damage. The OTG just changes it from “scary” to “pants soiling horror” and “high damage” to “you dead.”
The funniest thing those is that everybody thought that Haggar was gimp because he wasn’t buffed enough by CR.H.
I am not going to lie that I thought that Haggar was useless because of cr.H didn’t fix his problems.