UMVC3 SRK Tier List/Theory Discussion. (NEW THREAD NOW AVAILABLE)

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[SIZE=13px]MysticRay[SIZE=11px]Shuma is a guy, Mike Z.[/SIZE][/SIZE]
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[INDENT=2]I was actually just checking Storm’s character forum (as well as a few others) and noticed that most of her threads are based on Vanilla. Come on guys, how am I supposed to learn a character if the vets arent posting the newer tech?[/INDENT]
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[INDENT=2]I know she probably has the same combos and stuff but I want to learn about what she can now do in Ultimate.:([/INDENT]
Shuma > Storm
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[INDENT=1]Anyway I think Iron Fist is holding back all of the new storm tech.[/INDENT]

The last seen post before he went missing. If anyone knows his wearabouts please call the SRK Police at 1-800-SRK-POLC

Only problem i have with that is if you have ppl like justin wong winning tourny’s with iron fist that wont make him that high on the tiers because lets face it no one is gonna play him as well as wong will

Deadpools got some really really sexy x factor combos, it doesn’t matter what level. Feels like vanilla. I feel that anybody that thinks he is below A tier is missing out on all of his potential, and I kinda like how nobody talks about it so I can keep my secrets safe. May make a video showcasing it soon.

The funny thing is that I see more Thor footage form Japanese players than American ones (it’s online, so it holds less clout than tourney results, but they usually make him look effective). Even then, it really does look like there’s a lot more he can do than what they’re/Royal Flush are showing.

Maybe he got banned because someone thought he was a bot?

http://puu.sh/cThO

His name doesn’t come up in the pop out list when you search for it so the SRK Police probably banned him.

He’s in the chaos dimension now. R.I.P :frowning:

I don’t really have enough info to make a tearlist, just popped in to say something.

Um…I’m guessing you don’t play Tron/Sent because: [media=youtube]yxfvt5t-boA[/media]

I’ve never actually been able to land that in a match (take from that what you will), but I’m pretty mediocre at this game…

jM chains to jS for the groundbounce (this is what you should be doing around SJ height, or against airborne opponents in general, imho). Sadly, HSD seems to be total shit there, but she still does around 800k with Sent assist (iirc). I’d say that jM is probably her best air to air normal, since it beats things like the fucking pipe, serves as a death overhead on larger characters; Plus IAD double jM catches some people off guard.

I got into the habit of doing H drill after EVERY jH. I’m not leaving it to chance for a sM, and she does great damage off a crossup jH anyway (of course, then there’s the issue of having to buffer it against smaller characters…). cL still builds two bars and does 900k+ if you’ve got Sent assist.

I think one problem is that Drones is her only great combo extender. What if they snap Sent in? (My point Sent isn’t terrible, and CC Gustaff Fire reversal leads to 950k damage but I still don’t really have the execution to land that yet). :frowning:

lol that MysticRay dude is still here. He posts by the name Firebranded now, though he pretends it isn’t him. The way he continues to make hella topics in the exact same sections and still gets into arguments with MikeZ just makes it super obvious

If he finds out we know he’ll start posting in the same manner as before haha, at least he’s slightly reserved under this alias.

Having sexy X-Factor combos doesn’t really affect a character’s tier placement because everyone should be killing you in X-Factor. Deadpool’s combos just happen to be loops of the same move repeatedly, but that doesn’t make him dramatically better than characters who have to do magic series relaunch magic series for a kill.

He does decent damage on his own without X-Factor anyway, so it’s not like it’s suddenly unlocking some untapped potential for him. He’s capable of between 700-800k without assists for 1 meter which is respectable.

Yeah she loses way too much from lost team mates regardless of your skill level and her approaches are far too predictable I find. The fact that j.H is active until she hits the ground is probably also why it’s so easy to air throw her out of it as well. As for j.M yeah it’s a great underrated tool of hers, but it just seems way too situational.

It actually does make him better because he can make his X-Factor last very long because of the way infinites stall the X Factor meter.

So he was reincarnated as a top tier?

My ultimate problem with Tron is that while she can get good damage with select combo extenders (such as Sents or Chun), a lot of the rest of the cast can match or beat her damage with those same extenders, but do it while being safer and having a much easier time getting a confirm. It’s not that Tron’s damage is bad, per se, I just think it’s outclassed and is too low considering how hard of a time she has getting a confirm.

Hopefully his brain made the trip too.

He has one poke worth using and that’s the almighty st.M. Iron Fist has no good mixups, and his whole game is neutralized by :ub:. He’s not bottom tier by any means because he’s capable of getting shit done. It’s just that he’s one of those characters where if you show him no respect, his mixups mean jack.

Haggar is definietly better than IF, he has a lot more options that demand respect.

I have my own tier list from my own personal experiences when facing these characters. Because of this **they’ll be completely different from the others so far **- there’s the forewarning before people raise the blood pressure and their brains explode with rage comments.

**S - **Wolverine, Zero, Vergil, Dormammu, Phoenix
**A - **Dante, Strider, Doom, Viper, Nova, Magneto, Trish, Super Skrull
**B - **Wesker, Akuma, Spencer, Ryu, Frank West, Amaterasu, Chris, Dr. Strange, Iron Fist, Morrigan, Hawkeye, Haggar, Deadpool, Taskmaster, Storm, X-23, Rocket Raccoon, Felicia, Firebrand
**C - **Nemesis, Sentinel, Hulk, Viewtiful Joe, Arthur, Chun-Li, MODOK, Jill, Thor, Iron Man, Ghost Rider, Tron, She-Hulk, Spider-Man
**D - **Shuma Gorath, Hsien Ko, Phoenix Wright

Feel free to complain :slight_smile:

This was a fantastic write up and great read. As a Chris player, I pretty much agree with you entirely about how he should be played… chip and force your opponent to do something. Everyone looks at him and just says well he lacks mixups and it is like man oh man… you dont understand this character. Even then I think once you get people to respect the ground throw you can start going for low/throw mixups.

I might touch up on a few things later (basically just add to the post) covering some other stuff as well (specifacally flamethrower and how bloody good it is now).

I have Chris in A- tier (assuming he has a team built around him with say like Strider/Sentinel) because I think he is a great character in this game. He still does have weaknesses, specifically people with track teleports but that applies to a lot of the cast and not just Chris. Basically with tracking teleporters he has to be very cautious with his chip game because at any given time someone can be behind/in front of him and land something of a poor magnum/machine gun/whatever. He also has some REALLY bad matchups at the top, such as Dormammu and Zero, but a lot of the characters I have in A- have a bad problem with a couple characters at the top.

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