UMVC3 SRK Tier List/Theory Discussion. (NEW THREAD NOW AVAILABLE)

Phoenix Wright is pretty bad. I mean I only see him working as a gimmicky anchor and why do that when arthur exist as well?

Hsien ko doesn’t have terrible luck she just has limited tools. PW is a mixture of weak/useless tools and bad luck roled into one gameplay. ā€œHe is 10x worse than the second worst character in the gameā€ - James Chen

Dark DP, Dorm, Strider, Wesker, Firebrand, Felicia, Magneto, Viper, Vergil, Akuma, Ammy and to an extent Zero, Dante, and Nova are all terrifying.

All those characters have something in common… I just cant quite put my finger on it… :rolleyes:

damn the title under your avatar does not lie

Amazing tier discussion right there. Definitely AAA posting.

I’ve seen plenty. There is a difference. This isn’t some sort of keepaway. It’s covering your approach. Covering your own approach was good in Vanilla too.

sigh I’m already tired of talking to you again, so just forget it.

Anyway can we please establish to use the proper wording when referring to zoning and keepaway? Keepaway is using projectiles/traps to halt your opponent’s approach and to make flight when they get too close for comfort via teleport, airdash or slide.

Zoning is the controlling of space via horizontals and vertical planes. Strange, Dorm are great zoners but Dorm has a better keepaway game.

And keepaway is a factor due to the buffs and AD nerf. This is what allows Viper/Zero/Magneto/Wesker to be so dangerous is there projectile game allows them to halt other rushdown approaches and open people up from midscreen/fullscreen for combos.

You overlook his pros. Look at my previous post.
Plus, James Chen doesn’t know shit about Marvel 3.

Dude, Wright may be playable but how many characters do things better than him…I’d say ALL of them. You can’t look at tiers as in stone statuses, their statuses based on the characters around them, discovered technologies, and some results.

I agree, but I think what Mags/Wesker/Zero/Viper are doing is zoning. They’re controlling space while fishing for confirms.

dotdsfe, take the viper angle, argue why he’s good, instead of ā€˜just asking questions’

I prefer either Magic card analogy or gun analogy or computer analogy. Or some other geek terms.

Or comic writer analogy where Wright falls into the Loeb category and Zero falls into the Hickman category. +1 internets to whoever understands that.

I just dont understand why you waste your time coming into this thread because it appears like you are always angry or upset about something. I am sorry the majority of us dont necassarily agree with your views on PW or Chun Li or whoever, but maybe if you should stop sarcastically making posts about our discussion in this thread and put it good use by writing something with a bit more of an argument why you believe the characters you like are good.

I am aware you have done that before and people didnt agree with your arguments, but you just have to keep trying if you truely believe in what you are saying.

Look at MysticRay for example, he was all aboard the Shuma is really really good train and when people in this thread mocked Shuma he didnt make posts like Lol people in this thread still think Shuma sucks huh he kept making his arguments with specific examples of why he thought Shuma was good, describing things like his anti overhead game and the pressure he could put on. Even though most didnt agree people actually listened and learned a thing or two. Because by making your classic Hey look posts that you do all you are going to do is make people laugh and scoff at PW and Chun Li harder… but im beginning to think that is what you want.

I miss MysticRay as well :frowning:

Why thank you~! ^.^!

Hey look it’s the guy who think Phoenix Wright > Ironfist. Get over it Dotsdfe, PW is not a viable character. Your pro-Wright arguments are the only thing that isn’t valid. :lol:

I’ve argued my cases over and over and over. I get a few ā€œOh hey, those are some decent pointsā€ posts, and a few arguments to which I give rebuttals…And usually that’s when the discussion gets derailed. I’m pretty sure this exact thing happened…3 times in the last topic for Wright alone? It never goes anywhere at all. It doesn’t help that people take trolls like Cisco seriously.

I agree. Other people are worthy of mentioning are Rokmode (another Shuma guy, though he focuses a lot on his negatives, he also enlightens us to his strengths), Duck Strong (he keeps us from rating characters too high), Chrisis (Viper, der), FlyingVe (Nova, RR, Firebrand, Jill) and Nini (Zero and Dante mostly).

Aspire to be like these people. I even try to myself. My tech videos may suck in comparison to theirs, but hell I am trying to supply content whilst learning from others content. You don’t have to make videos, but you could post more constructively.

people do it wrong anyways, you can’t tip people off as to which characters you’re fans of.

You’re right. His pro-PW ideas aren’t the only thing that isn’t valid. You piece of shit anti-PW ones aren’t valid, too.

Seriously, both of you guys make me facepalm whenever PW comes up.

EDIT: LOL iPod autocorrect.

Be persistent man! This is the interwebs, you have to look hard for people to take you seriously. Do you know how bad some of the posters her frustrate me sometimes? After a small little rage, I realize I’m on the internet where anonymity really creates an intensely diverse, but unreasonable atmosphere.

Some of us are actually here to listen, learn, refute, and explain!

Alright, I’ve gotten all the unbridled optimism I have out. I’ve got to get back to hating everything Demon Dash says.