UMVC3 SRK Tier List/Theory Discussion. (NEW THREAD NOW AVAILABLE)

[OMG_its_a_duck]

No Zeros in top 8 at APEX, Zero is low tier Kappa

[Bonuspokus]

Essentially it makes her great neutral game even more fantastic and takes away the need for any serious execution as basic ABC combos will kill off characters. Air throw, ground throw, random air hit, ground hit, seismo hit, burn kick hit all lead to instant easy death. The chip she does with seimos in level is is also absolutely insane.

She isnt on the same level as Zero or Strider in level 3, in fact, she is better (except when Strider has 3 meters and only needs to kill 1 character).

Many characters become monsters in Lvl 3 X-Factor. I can’t see how you are not getting pushblocked to the other end of the screen for using Seismo, go ahead and test it, see where Viper ends.

[GREEK]

i’d hate it if bonuspokus’s post gets ignored

his theory on tier lists makes sense!

[El_Maiz]

My list is based in individual characters and not around teams.

That’s the problem.

[Maverick8]

i’d hate it if bonuspokus’s post gets ignored

his theory on tier lists makes sense!

No it doesn’t. Why take in account individual characters in a game where you play three?

[Rokmode]

No it doesn’t. Why take in account individual characters in a game where you play three?

Strider in mvc2 low tier cuz he needs doom

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[Smexy_Millz]

His tierlist does make sense not that I agree with it but the self suffiency of the characters in s being in any position without much need for assists… Hence why Dante is awesome…

Play Kof marvel one day… no assists or dhc’s and you really start to realise characters individual tools…

Zero, Dante, Wesker, Doom, Morrigan and a few others are pretty good by themselves with no assist needed

[Bonuspokus]

No it doesn’t. Why take in account individual characters in a game where you play three?

Probably because if you try to tier a perfectly assisted character, you are missing on the character’s individual weaknesses?

This is characters tier discussion, not team building thread, am I missing something?

[Nobus3r1]

<3 this thread

Me too. It’s always fun watching belligerent tosspots get banned. I also have yet to find a more efficient method than reading this thread for discerning which people know what they’re talking about and which people are pants-on-head retarded.

[Maverick8]

Probably because if you try to tier a perfectly assisted character, you are missing on the character’s individual weaknesses?

This is characters tier discussion, not team building thread, am I missing something?

We aren’t accounting for their perfect assist, but you can’t ignore the fact that some characters with particular assist are godlike. You go ahead and have fun taking into account just the characters individual prowess. That will never have significant implications in the game though because synergy is the name of this game.

[El_Maiz]

Probably because if you try to tier a perfectly assisted character, you are missing on the character’s individual weaknesses?

This is characters tier discussion, not team building thread, am I missing something?

The fact that this is a team game. We aren’t tiering how they would do in 1 on 1, we tier them in THIS game.

[Maverick8]

The fact that this is a team game. We aren’t tiering how they would do in 1 on 1, we tier them in THIS game.

Exactly.

[ironboy89]

hsien ko and** phoenix wright** are the same tier as** iron man, haggar and iron fist? ** is this tier list a joke or something?

you all either need to split up the tiers more or ditch half of the people who voted, b/c anybody on the planet can tell you that is wrong.

calm down.

1. This isn’t final.
2. This will change.
3. Provide reasons why Iron Fist, Haggar, Iron Man are significantly better. PS.“Telling everybody that they are dumb” doesn’t work. Great Walls of Texts do.

Every opinion this topic is considered, but insults are not.

[voidbane]

**

PURE AWESOME!

**

Finally!
Thank you for going through the effort to CLEARLY explain your list!
I daresay, even if someone disagrees with you they will be hard pressed to find fault in your logic!

Huzzah~!
^.^~!

[Maverick8]

Finally!
Thank you for going through the effort to CLEARLY explain your list!
I daresay, even if someone disagrees with you they will be hard pressed to find fault in your logic!

Huzzah~!
^.^~!

We’ve already found it.

[El_Maiz]

Finally!
Thank you for going through the effort to CLEARLY explain your list!
I daresay, even if someone disagrees with you they will be hard pressed to find fault in your logic!

Huzzah~!
^.^~!

I rather get the feeling that you didn’t actually read the whole thing and just saw a big wall of text and went “This must be legit”.

[Bonuspokus]

Exactly.

Then you have a horrible misconception on how to tier this game.

Yes, it’s a team game, I mentioned before that Viper had some “S” teams just as an example.

My post is not about this team is better that that team

My post goes way to the basics of HOW YOU ARE GOING TO CHOOSE an individual in order to make a team. I even cleared that an S tiered character will not beat a B tier character because it depends in the team.

My post is about evaluating why are you choosing Viper over X-23 for rushdown, why do you choose Hawkeye over Taskmaster, even tho the game is team based, the characters have an individual reason for them being in.

You are just so full of yourself.

[voidbane]

I rather get the feeling that you didn’t actually read the whole thing and just saw a big wall of text and went “This must be legit”.

Did read the whole thing…
but while doing so I missed all the posts given in response.

Saying something is flawed on principle is not a matter of logic,
more: one of definition.

They clearly outlined the contours of the subject they were presenting an opinion of,
if you disagree with the very concept of individualizing the characters,
then you are arguing against the very basis of the explaination.

How many times have I asked people to explain their terminology?
I’ve lost count…
but when someone finally DOES, and I find I agree with it?
Again, I say; Huzzah!

[Maverick8]

Then you have a horrible misconception on how to tier this game.

Yes, it’s a team game, I mentioned before that Viper had some “S” teams just as an example.

My post is not about this team is better that that team

My post goes way to the basics of HOW YOU ARE GOING TO CHOOSE an individual in order to make a team. I even cleared that an S tiered character will not beat a B tier character because it depends in the team.

My post is about evaluating why are you choosing Viper over X-23 for rushdown, why do you choose Hawkeye over Taskmaster, even tho the game is team based, the characters have an individual reason for them being in.

You are just so full of yourself.

Funny, most people here tend to agree with me…(They agree with my perception on a tier list usually, not my exact tier placements)

Even if your list approaches it that way, it’s flawed. We choose character based on individual tools AND synergy, you have account for both. The list is flawed if it doesn’t account for both.

I’m not full of myself at all. I am a very average player just trying to contribute content to the FGC and the weak local community I have.

[ironboy89]

Seriously Haggar players, Iron Fist Players , Iron Man players,Phoenix Wright, Tron Player,etc.

Make your voice heard, and into great depth on why you disagree.