Spidey can cancel ANYTHING into webzip, which would be fucking nutso on any other character.
I would guess it might have came from field research asking people who didn’t stick to fighters why they didn’t and they got replies like “I make one mistake and the guy kills me wish there was a way to cancel my move or something”
Good move capcom Pay more attention to the most hated game instead of the Most played game…
Capcom are actually respecting the hardcore players with this game which is something I’m thankful for. Most Marvel fans don’t want the game to be rebalanced over and over, they want the game to be left alone so we can dig deep in the matchups and figure out its intricacies. To be fair vanilla MvC3 did have some problems, and Capcom were pressured for time by Marvel which is why we saw a rebalance so quickly, but UMvC3 doesn’t have very many problems that actually need fixing, a rebalance would be completely unnecessary at this point and this game has may years worth of competition left in it.
The most annoying thing about Capcom balancing is that its always ‘all or nothing’. Its clear Zero and Vergil could use a little adjusting, and I dont think it would ruin UMVC3 if they were a little nerfed and the rest of the cast was untouched. However, when Capcom do updates they do blanket changes to the whole cast even though its not necessary 70% of the time.
Yeah most characters with a solid duo behind them are very capable in this game. They did enough right things where although people whine and bitch…its hard to not be thankful that nobody really streches the tier list too thin and just about everything is still winning or doing very well at tourneys.
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What in particular about Zero and Vergil do you think needs rebalanced? Because they’re deffinately potent characters but I don’t think they do anything significant that can’t be matched by another character/team of the same calibre. I can certainly see areas where they could be nerfed but I don’t necessarily think that it has to happen, many other characters/teams are just as ridiculous.
Vergil - Sword Priority, Gucci Belt balancing, x factor boosts
Zero - Buster Cancelling (for the most part), hitstun on Pizza Cutter
For Zero I’d just nerf his damage and fix his scaling. He shouldnt be able to TOD off of anything. I dont think his tools should be nerfed that much, but they certainly shouldnt lead into death no matter what.
For Vergil I’d say making helm breaker punishable on block is the no.1 priority.
I’m not good at thinking of buffs/nerfs for characters I dont play. I say those two should be nerfed because they are the only characters that just feel on a completely different class when you fight them. I feel like they make you take guesses in the neutral game because there is no real solution to their tools apart from going random. When I play against Spencer, Magneto, Wesker, Dormammu, Dante, Morrigan, Doom, Taskmaster and Wolverine I feel as though I can always win with solid smart play and I’ve made solid strategies for fighting them. When I get hit by them, for the most part I know where I went wrong. I can see what I need to fix when I play against them and I can see how to abuse their advantages and weaknesses. I cant say the same for that against Zero/Vergil. They just hit you with stuff you dont really have any control over and then make you not get to play.
if capcom is afraid of Tweaking the game too much they should just buff the Low and midtier characters.but thats just my opinion
They already did that (well more like some half buffs with nerfs for some characters)…so for AE it’s time to never everybody into the ground. Do not want.
I think the main fixes this game needs are:
- Nerf the hell out of TACs and remove their hitstun reseting capabilities and infinites
-Nerf to XF2/XF3 time, speed, and damage boosts, XF1 is relatively fine in ultimate. - Nerf Spiral Sword durability to either medium durability or 1 low durability point per sword. Medium might be too much as Shield Skills and the like would plow through. Nerfing Vergil’s meter build would be a good idea too.
-Nerf C.Viper and Zero’s minimum scaling to 10% normals/15% specials, minimum scaling makes no sense in this game, it’s ok for Hulk and the like to have that kind of scaling due to his limited tools, but why do Zero/Viper get away with 20/30 when characters like Dante have 5%, Strider 3%, Magneto 10%? It doesn’t really make sense for Viper/Zero to have that kind of scaling from a design perspective.
-Buffs to HsienKo/Phoenix Wright/Iron Fist
Well if they nerf hit stun they also need to buff on some characters. It makes no sense that Storm and Iron Man have capable tools but can’t do shit with them combo wise. Storm also needs a damage boosts and speed boosts on her specials and on hailstorm. Iron Man needs faster dashes and the ability to cancel out of his ground dash. As for Spidey they should buff freaking web zip to where it’s like his upwards zip and just connects at a certain point as opposed to waiting for it to touch a wall, it should also get a speed buff and bring back the forward movement to :s: and the ability to connect web throw midscreen off a launch. The damage was already scaled now its the least they could do.
I blame it on Airborne… shrug
Speed and or damage boost on hailstorm?! It’s fine as is.
Hailstorm takes too long to start up. I meant damage boosts to her in general. The real problem outside of that though is her meter build. She can hardly build a bar for herself and with team combos you are still only building one bad exact in most cases. They either need to buff that for her or let her start actually doing combos that will let her start averaging 750 to 800k damage for one bar with moderate execution. It’s not too much to ask considering she has no real special properties.
I blame it on Airborne… shrug
I think zero’s buster cancelling is justified. He’s supposed to be a nutty character. I don’t, however, like how one touch from zero is basically death for your entire team. That is what they should probably think about fixing first. For vergil, just make that nigga less derpy. The round trip glitch might need to go too. That thing has the potential to break the game.
Hailstorm does obscene chip, great damage, otg’s, covers a large portion of the screen, has one frame of recovery so it’s generally safe on block, and only one frame startup when DHC’d into. With all it does, it being 40 frames is fine( I still don’t know why Typhoon is 63 fucking frames though). No one should be doing raw hailstorm’s much anyway, so its long startup isn’t really a problem. She definitely needs better meter build though, and a slight damage boost would be nice. But above ANY change with Storm, improved meter build is my absolute number one wish. I couldn’t really care too much about anything else, as I feel poor meter build is the real thing holding her back. Her damage is meh, but I can live with it.
I’m sorry I’ve never heard of this but what’s the glitch on Vergils round trip?
Also as fun as Captain America looks I think he needs some new moves. He has a fucking shield made of vibranium yet has no reflect projectile moves
I blame it on Airborne… shrug