Funny, today all of my online matches have been against Wesker or Wolverine led teams. I guess people are wanting to milk every last ounce of cheese while they can. 
Theyâll still get swiss cheese in Ultimate.
lol
It got buffed to Berserker Rage. 
Thatâs the official name of the move right?
Yeah. I donât think he says Swiss Cheese anymore.
Yeah if he said swiss cheese then people would think the move is a joke move.
Isnât it? lol
I thought Swiss Cheese was to prevent Wolvie players from mashing.
I thought I was the only one, lmao.
did rhino charge invincibility really got reduced? the change log said it was increased which doesnt make sense since it was invincible from the start. either its a typo or they meant the start up time. heres hoping for the latter since an instant rhino charge would be sweet.
iâm not too worried about not being able to gun, forward teleport, combo. a naked gun into forward teleport seems really risky and that only works against air borne opponents. gun, call assist, teleport has the tendency to foul up the followup for most of the assist used. even with the nerf, you can probably still gun, call fast assist (iron man), teleport and still combo.
but what worries me the most is the tech time on his d/f gun which will affect most of his resets.
and last thing, am i reading it right? did wesker really get a speed and damage increase? :badboy:
EDIT: cobra strike into teleport? awesome. more safe shit wesker can throw out.
lolâŚDoes someone really believe that Dante will be mid tier in Ultimate? Mid tier as in likeâŚChris in vanilla? Youâre shitting me.
Also the low-tier hero ragesalt is delicious.
Thatâs the joke I was trying to make. LOL.
- Increased invincibility frame startup of Rhino Charge.
Unless there was a typo the way itâs written it sounds like it more describes that the invincibility frames have shifted so they donât become active on frame one of the motion input like in Vanilla. It sounds more like youâll be able to hit him before the first active frame of the counter. If the note had said âincreased invincibility frames on rhino chargeâ that would make more sense.
Increasing invincibility frame START UP sounds more like theyâre increasing the time it takes for the invincibility to kick in. Which would be a nerf. DECREASED invincibility frame start up would if you take it out of what I think would be proper English context would describe a buff. Considering the invincibility starts up before the super starts upâŚthat would be illogical.
Itâs not like it would really matter either way. XF3 nerf, gun port combo nerf and gun hit stun nerf are much bigger nerfs. Dante didnât really lose his ability to do any combos off any of his most useful normals and will still do way more damage with DHCâs than Wesker on any successful hit. Wesker lost one of his go to OP combos from Vanilla off breaks and lost one of the things he was most notorious for which was scamming whole teams in XF while having 1.1 million health. Having gun port combo in Ultimate would have had me sure fire putting him in S tier in Ultimate but Capcom was thinking. He actually needs team synergy to get combos off ports now instead of fishing with gun.
I know lol, people are ridiculous. A character with the toolset Dante has can never be bad. Its just not possible. I would say the same thing even if it took like 2.5 combos to kill with him. the way he can fit into any area of a team in unparalled. So what he got nerfs. They remove him from top 3 in the game to maybe top 10. Be fucking deal, if you are good then you will still win with him. U.Dante being on the same level as say V.Felicia? GTFOH
No Iâm pretty sure that goes to Haggar. Seriously whats the fucking point in making cr.H an OTG if you canât even cancel it anymore
Capcom really shoving it down peopleâs faces to use Haggar for the assist.
yeah and they nerfed it so what the fuck
Depending on how much invivncibilty RFF has he still might be better off overall though, if you can blaze through some dudes beam to punch him 35 times in the pancreas it will help.
Well the assist had to be nerfed because hard knockdown helped allow Wesker and Dante to run Vanilla with that assist (especially with Phoenix backing). Plus the game does not stop assists when you hit a point character so this had to be changed so face rolling on haggar assist before getting hit doesnât shut offense down. Heâs still going to be invincible for 60 frames after a measly 2 frames that you have to account for and youâll still get a long ass soft knockdown hit confirm while theyâre airborne. Still going to be one of the gameâs most abused assists. This game is full of mix ups that you canât deal with using human reactions for very long so Haggar takes care of that. He will just be a more calculated assist (if thatâs even possibleâŚ).
My friend who uses She Hulk/Hulk/Haggar had no problem regularly confirming off the assist even without a way to OTG and all heâll have to change up is not face rolling on the assist when I get in on him.
As for the RFFâŚitâll just be another option to swing at the opponent if they try to punish your lariat. If it gets blocked youâre dead unless you have XF or put Haggar on point so you can safe DHC (ROFLâŚshouts to CheechWizard I respect it even though that shit is crazy).
DOUBLE POST UPDATE: 2nd video change log is on first page.
I read that note as they added more invincible start up frames to Rhino Charge, which wouldnât make it any less safe to just throw out with DHC back up, but would make it considerably harder to land on reaction to a lot of shit.
BlehâŚguess weâll need Max for this one. The way itâs worded though in other changes it usually means a nerf. Increased + frames in the same sentence usually accounts for nerf and decrease + frames usually means buff.