Ultra Street Fighter 4 | General Lounge

Yeah because here no one gets fucked by Makoto’s awesome dash into kara grab/command grab, but it does happen to high level players like Bonchan as you can see here, 5 times he got caught by it in the whole set. But apparently SRK is above that, not saying it is abusable but it is a viable tactic that leads to ridiculously high damage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y46Y8JqqA_E

I have SFxT and am not a fan of the idea of Jurassic “Park” being in Ultra SF4.

The other stages like the skate park, truck stop, and Mad Gear are at least in the same universe as SSF4.

Here’s to hoping Capcom will reconsider that one.

I wonder if the other “new” stages will have remixed music (or even new tunes), which would help a lot with giving them a new feel.

That shit’s definitely not a gimmick.

I don’t remember using the word «gimmick»

Scrub city

Yeah, I agreed.

Damn right you’re a scrub, how did you place at EVO? You’re a nobody like most posters here, or a high ranked player that no one gives a fuck about.

I don’t even have a problem with makoto’s command grab.
my biggest complaint about her is that they gave her mp normal way too much hitbox.

swear to god, I once did a Vega Barcelona dive on a Makoto once and I was clearly behind her and she anti-aired me out of it with far standing neutral mp.
my Vega’s body wasn’t anywhere near her fists.
fuck me senseless with that good for everything under the sun move.

It is surprisingly good at that.

Look at Claw’s hurtbox during it.

Mak would be pretty fucking bad if she didn’t had insane normals to make you respect her space since she can’t move safely on the screen.

Karakusa is cheap

  1. You guys should see Makoto’s karakusa and kara karakusas in 3s along with badass 100% stun combos. Damn I loved that Makoto.

  2. Daigo has probably already played Ultra so if he likes delayed wake up, it may actually be implemented really well. I feel a lot better after reading what he said.

You think Makoto in 3s is fine but you complain about pitiful stuff like Seth’s SRK FADC SPD, where’s the coherence?

Not sure, if I am saying it in the right way, but 3S Makoto is in a game, where other characters have stuff, which is a bit similar in terms of strength. So, if someone has a strong Super Art, somebody else has also a Super Art, which isn´t that much weaker than the other one. In SF4 it looks different, the majority of the cast doesn´t have good or strong options/tools to fight the top tiers well in this game.

3S has also parrying. There is a huge difference between “Parry the Lunge Punch of Yun and then convert into major damage in a bad matchup” and “Focus crumple some attacks into meh damage in a bad matchup”.

The major damage combos could be even easier than the meh damage combos btw. Forgot to say that the focus attack of many characters isn´t great either.

What’s your Steam!? <3

I think the point is that you should never complain about SF4 Makoto when she’s not so bad compared to 3S

I’ve definitely been gay’d out of a lot of rounds against 3s Makoto. she is a skank. you spend 40 seconds keeping her out and converting all her attempts to get in into good damage. then she dash up low parries a jab, karakusa, 100% SA2 and you’re dead. get fucked.

Just because of the voice actress alone. Holy fuck I hope they change her voice in Ultra. 2:19
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enMtXyOL4GE

Still less BS than Chun / Yun :smiley:

for me Makoto is the scariest of the big four characters of that game. just a personal preference. Chun and Ken rely on the ground game so if you’ve got solid fundamentals you can do well in those matchups. Yun is Yun but I’ve sunk a lot of time into that matchup so he’s not so bad I think, especially if you have good defense and can force him to raw activate and take the zenpo scaling once he’s in. but Makoto is super scary, and the comeback ability is so nuts. you can be up 80% life and make the smallest of mistakes and still lose the round. cool character and fun to play as, but yeah she’s a real nightmare.

one of my buddies plays her in both games, and it’s definitely a less nerve-wracking experience in 4.