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Speaking of Elena… She had better have this as a Taunt or win animation:

That might mean rose might be able to combo into ultra… is that possible?

I’m not gonna watch a 2h video, does she do reflect to spiral in there or what, and if so, where?

That’s one of her winposes, you can see it in the french (?) event video with decapre, poison, hugo, rolento and elena.

Why in all of fuckery are they making Sagat’s low Tiger Shot -10 on block?

He won’t be able to cancel out of c.LP or stand LK anymore. Or c.MK. I don’t understand. Do they expect us to somehow use Tiger Knee instead?

Kindevu’s T-hawk blowing people up

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEApeYOZJ50

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Kindevu’s T-hawk blowing people up

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Wow Kindevu is alive!? I heard he was like the Japanese version of Marn to the Japanese players. (not joking) He seems like he would be too, the way he acts. Lol

Rose can only combo into EX spiral after HP reflect midscreen. In the corner you can use MK spiral

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was this posted already?

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lol at the match at 36:36

Lol, I guess that Vega player learned a thing about cross up Blanka balls this day.
I really like the red focus cancel for Vega. Feels like it’s such a good tool for him. I could see why he would have been a crazy character if all his buffs stayed. I still think some of the buff should have stayed tho.

I feel like ultra just took two steps back towards AE. For a minute I thought they were gonna really go ahead and shake things up a bit, outside of features that should of been in the last game I feel like its gonna be the same game with 5 more characters and slightly altered tier list.

Can anyone think of a character with zero red focus cancel potential? I’m thinking Hawk has no ways to combo into it, but I could be wrong, and hell, there could be others.

Called it.

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This is how they should have made Sim’s s.mk work; two hits to the knee and one hit farther out. Change damage from 40+30 to 30+40 .
Knowing Capcom they’ll probably just scrape the idea altogether instead of findings a middle ground like Chun’s jump or Adon’s st.hk.

Post I made yesterday in the top 10 predictions thread:

Gief is probably the character I’ve seen land EX RF the most though, EX GH is just so viable to land in a real match and getting full meter doesn’t seem too weird from what I’ve seen.

it also gives him a legit way to get all that damage guess free. gief buils meter really well too because most characters are trying to avoid him as much as possible.

wanna turtle? ok i’ll build these bars and then land half life from footsies

Exactly.

Hell, I’d even go as far as to say that EX RF is Gief’s best buff overall, all things considered. It’s just so good to get all kinds of damage and mixups off anything you land.

so you uhh, gonna flip your outlook?

zangitan still sportin that 90%

True but isn’t the threat of super just as good or better? 0F grab that does 450 damage. Unless Gief has full ultra stocked and is willing to blow both ultra and super he isn’t breaking much more than 300 for EX RF in realistic scenarios. He can land EX RF more than anyone else on that list I mentioned but he can’t really utilize it terribly well for the meter it costs.

Some realistic EX RF combos
() = current total damage
far LP or LK (30) - EX GH (170) - EX RF (254) - clsMP (308) - PPP Lariat = 368
far LP/LK (30) - EX GH (170) - EX RF (254) - Suplex [Kick SPD up close] = 386
far LP/LK (30) - EX GH (170) - EX RF (254) - HP SPD = 404
far LP/LK (30) - EX GH (170) - EX RF (254) - Half Charged U1 = 432
far LP/LK (30) - EX GH (170) - EX RF (254) - Full Charged U1 = 515 (this would be worth it I imagine)

Now these are probably the most ideal combos outside of landing a jump in

More realistic:

crLP - crLP - far LK - EX GH - EX RF - Full Charged U1 = 379
crLP - crLP - far LK - EX GH - EX RF - HP SPD = 322

I just dunno if outside landing a far LP - EX GH buffer if EX RF is ever worth it and you lose the threat of EX GH or Super which are both big deals in specific MUs. And even then mostly only when you have ultra stocked. You barely hit 400 otherwise, that’s a lot of resources for not a lot. Very useful in final round though.

i think its worth it from footsies. like i was saying its 450-500 without a guess. i wouldnt waste it on a jump in combo or without the ultra.

the whole super +ultra isnt a huge deal for him. if he really wants to make bar with kick lariats youre not going to stop him without being a specific few characters. like if he naturally already has a little over 2 bars, i can see most giefs just going for a full super