I really hope that stupid shit doesnt get added to DWU. The whole point is to gain extra options at the cost of effectiveness.
I mean seriously. Increase the damage and stun of normal AND command throws? Do you have any idea what Zangief with DWU and damage boosted SPD will be capable of with that?
Is…what?
It’s not the optimal link nor is it as consistent as doing 2 low shorts into low jab or stand forward. To my knowledge they only made low short special cancelable meaning far short still isn’t…even if it is…why not do low/stand jab for easier a confirm? It’s the same damage.
AFAIK he can’t forced 3-way mixups anymore because of DWU. So him getting damage buffs on SPD is no big deal. Might be too strong for Abel though because it looks like he can adjust to DWU quite easily.
Chun and Akuma’s sweeps in Vanilla did 200 stun.
200 stun sweeps would be very interesting… anyone with a link into sweep would be instantly much better (balrog, ryu, ken, akuma, fei… a bunch lol). Throws to 200 stun yeah Idk thats a tad much.
You broke my heart Rook, i guess it reminded me of EX Kyo from KoFXIII’s easy mode confirm combo. sigh* 
There should be no indication of dwu being used imo
yeah and any wake up ultra after DWU should autocorrect too
does stun follow the same scaling formula as damage?
Why’s that?
Doesn’t say it does in the change list, so I assume it’s 100, 150, 200 like with normal FAs.
Because it’s an equally bad idea.
this community is so confused.
we want footsies and fireballs to be better->early reports of fireball characters being much better and a game more focused on footsies->yeah but DWU makes the game slow, this sucks-> videos with characters still vortexing and running DWU adjusted set plays
then everyone is all, my character sucks now, look at these nerfs. then we see examples of yun still being yun. zangitan carrying a 90% win pct, people calling DJ and Hawk good etc
i even saw a video of a ryu player do a jab sweep combo then react with a DWU frame kill jab to the technical message that appeared as he recovered from the sweep
i wonder is it possible that we just dont know what the fucks going on yet.
maybe give the game a bit of time before trying to pass all these sweeping judgements. maybe wao and everyone else need to figure out how to play ultra instead of trying to play ae2012 inside ultra
just my 0.02.
Why is giving delayed standing no indicator a bad idea? It didn’t have an indicator in CVS2.
This probably wouldn’t be happening if we had the game.
i didnt play cvs2 but ive heard on a bunch of times that it has a shadow or something to let you know
ahh. so maybe we dont know if DWU sucks or not or if the game is slow, huh? maybe a week isnt enough time to know your set plays for every situation? or if footsies are more of the focus, or where every character stands, or if fireball characters are buffed?
all of it could be bullshit in a month?
shocking discoveries and revelations abound
This isn’t CVS2, it would ruin the game even more than it already does.
I definitely agree with all that, but it’s probably because we don’t have the game in our hands yet.
How would it ruin the game?
SF4 has completely different offensive and defensive mechanics to CvS2.
But that doesn’t explain how losing the indicator would worsen gameplay.