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Exactly. Knowledge is power. Assumptions on a scant few vids vs someone who mained the character in SFxT (Which is similar to SF4 form) and played her a ton in the Japanese loctests. Hmm…wonder who to place my money on?

Someones uploaded I think the entirety of yesterdays stream:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anYcVM919gs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sr1PqACKZvs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjBWMCxuGCQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1giiYEJqcc

Even reading ability is a form of power. I don’t really care if Elena is a mixup character or footsies based one,I was referring about the healing. Rolento seems slow,I had not seen the full animation of it,but look the 2nd video above at 1:32,she’s almost regain almost 1/2 bar in 2 seconds.

Looking at the Elena’s thread seems I’m not the only one (especially page 3) with some doubt about it. All of’em ignorant about what happen on the screen. I don’t speak more about that,I’m done.

Bout to play SFIVAE. Still staying with Chun Li, easily the worst character on the game unless you play like Sean on SF3 (aka mind games 24/7 with grab). Cheers!

Gootecks showing how important having a LEGITIMATE c.MK is for Poison.

Stream is on now?

@blufang Don’t bother dude. He argues in circles very often and makes hypocritical statements all the time. I just put him on the socratic clown list.

It’s been. Combofiend and Gootecks now on commentary.

The Elena healing thing is easily workable if doing it off of anything but a FADC gets her jumpin-comboed. If you think about it in terms of other Ultras, it’s a bit like being able to chip with other Ultras without being punished… Ryu and Guile, for instance, can force you to block and thus take chip from their projectile Ultras at certain points, and once you block those Ultras you’re not punishing them. They get SOMETHING out of it, even if they don’t get a LOT.

Elena’s healing Ultra would work the same way, then, optimally: She should get SOMETHING out of throwing it out smartly, so Elena can scoop/throw and then heal for a small net gain even after being hit by the jumpin combo.

But then the net gain has to be SMALL. And Capcom need to make sure that she can’t just do it for free against certain characters.

It could make for some fun Elena playstyles, honestly, where playing against healing Elena would revolve around staying at a distance where you can punish her healing attempts once she gets her Ultra. Certainly stops the jumpbacking.

Ah, so the Damage Reduction for UCW is variable based on how much utility a character can gain from using it (or something like it).

Apparently Ryu’s UCW has very little damage reduction since his U2 (at least as of now, Peter says it’s getting buffed soon) isn’t very good and his U1 is the star.

Gief’s UCW has huge reduction (as we know) because…well, we know the danger of him having both Ultras.

Bitches dont know shit about them Russian Skies.

Oh, Peter’s Elena lol. EX Mallet Smash, s.LK xx EX Lynx Tail, Brave Dance

Shenanigans.

That was pretty impressive actually.
I was all like, Elena has combos now ?

Thing is Peter said she’s still lacking in the combo department and they were going to touch her up on that end and that she needed more work.

hugo’s spd does some ass damage. i hope they change that. maybe just a little less than zangief’s.

She had that to a lesser extent in SFxT (no super ender sadly).

I’m hoping that you could still EX mallet into st.mp or cr.mp.

He gets monstrous positioning advantage off it. If his gets a buff, so does T Hawks lp SPD.

I know she did, I dabbled in some Elena. Obviously as you said, no Brave Dance ender which was kind of what I was referring to.

Ah I never knew you tried Elena for a bit, I thought you mainly stuck to your mains. Add Elena to your team again she makes Hero and dark rage >:P

Edit: Gotta correct myself you could use her super in that combo if you used mp or lp mallet as a starter though.

Seems many of us are in Socratic Clown group.

Well it took me a while to even come to some of my mains. And other than Cammy/Paul, it’s still in flux honestly. But since I don’t have Live I’m not grinding as hard as usual so it’s kind of in Limbo.