I seriously want hands loop back. Maybe it’s greedy (as hell), but with the worse hitbox (frames?) on st mk I don’t think it would be too bad. Would make Gen more fun to play. Maybe give st mk one more frame of recovery and make it work only off of that move or something, don’t know … 
if what @street11 says holds then Gen will have a loop on Deejay, at the moment he can Tc2 medium hands crHP on Deejay so if it has less pushback I dont see why sweep wont connect lol 
*pls dont tell capcom lol
To any of you who has USF4 Gen Mod installed:
Here’s the one with more accurate pushbacks. LP/MP hands might have a slightly smaller pushback from my experience with the tests, but EX hands feel just right.
This is not Blacktooth’s mod…right?
Thanks for the file…will try right now.
Also…congrats on your placing at SCR as well.
Thanks. Could’ve done better. Oh well, I enjoyed the tournament.
It IS Blacktooth’s mod, except I changed the pushback on hands to reflect what I tested during SCR.
Ah…I see it is. You modified it a little then. Cool.
Hm, won’t delayed wakeup hurt Gen since he is setup oriented? And it’s not like his wakeup was terrible (with ex bar), either. Seems to me that if anything he deserves more buffs than nerfs given the universal system changes. And frankly, he’s a pretty gimmicky character; if not for ambiguous crossups that become far tougher to land now, he’s not a very good character. People keep saying he’s a good character but that seems to be about inexperience to me; when Gen has been downloaded he doesn’t have much going for him … especially in Ultra …
Agree or disagree?
they want Gen to die. that’s the whole point.
To me it just occurs as weird when people (including good players) rate him considerably high. Seems to me like Xian, who is an amazing player, went and won a tournament with Gen due to great skill, knowledge and most importantly: others not knowing the matchup/setups. Once people figure Gen out what you have left is a low damage, low health, no dp without meter/poor dp with meter, technical character who relies on super to be dangerous and has to take risks to deal damage. I swear, I destroy high-PP players with Blanka all the time, but when I use Gen I can often struggle against 2500 PP shotos. The matchup just seems so ridiculously one-sided, to the point where they can mash DP a lot and get away with it. 
Gen getting nerfs makes me wonder if the world has gone mad. But I will keep using him for as long as I play SF. If he is weakened in Ultra I will not get it. Not because I refuse to use a low tier character (I’ve stuck with him through the bad times … and they are plenty) but out of principle. /rant
Is there something I am missing regarding Gen’s abilities? Sure, good pokes but not the best. Pretty slow walk speed in mantis, too. And you can’t afford to stay in crane.
I’m bitter because I can’t implement his one-framer into my game and keep eating DP for trying, by the way. And I’m around 3500 PP skill level with him. Around 4000 (maybe higher) for Blanka.
I just watched that Decapre First Play video and thinking back on all the Gen nerfs, I’ll say he’s pretty much dead all right. I have respect for anyone still using Gen in ultra, but I’ll probably go back to my original main back in my newbie days Chun Li. Nerfed my main, and I don’t even like any of the new characters. Why do I even consider spending money on this?
Most likely he will fall, but not by a lot. Less chance for setups = less meter gain = less Super, which is imho his main weapon. Oh and it’ll be more difficult to do a psychic jump over fireballs from an insane distance with his Crane j.HP, so he’ll have to resort to his regular fireball-avoiding tech more often, which is… neutral jump (not counting Crane cr.MK cuz it doesn’t work in some cases)
Ppl who know Gen will not do red focus against him, so I guess we cannot bait them? Gen will be able to use red focus though, unless it’s a mirror match.
He might be in between low-mid and mid in Ultra if the current changes go through.
lol! I am jumping ship to top tier, but Gen will be in the side boat
He needs to spend meter for a set up, and spend even more for a red focus. If his meter gain is going to be the same as it is now, he’s going to have to choose between going for set ups with EX Gekiro, risk a red focus, or neither and save them for his super. He doesn’t have much options in this aspect. Also if I remember correctly his crane super was nerfed am I right?
They should buff his damage up a bit to compensate for the lack of oki.
Give him some better Hands combos and don’t screw with his focus and he should do fine in Ultra.
Gen gets to spend meter for knockdown and Decapre has 3 frame ultra. Yeah that’s balancing
Xian said he doesn’t feel Gen is valid anymore in his interview with Eventhubs. That makes me sad.
The truth is that he will be worse in USF4. But its left to us to max out whatever he has left and master them. Then have a pocket top tier. Lol!
The truth is that he will be worse in USF4. But its left to us to max out whatever he has left and master them. Then have a pocket top tier. Lol!
i’m sure gen will do fine in ultra ugo_2u will give us all the tech we need
Lmao! Will be playing Guilty Gear Xrd mostly. So we look forward to @street11 @yeb @housecnb @west and @warriorBySand
Then once in a while u will get an assassin scroll from me. Lol