Super does less damage? Are you joking? If no, I am DEFINITELY not getting that game. Wow, this is completely insane …
I’m quitting guys. wish u guys the best in ultra. if u want to see me rage check my twitter @ugo_2u and lend ur voices
I returned to this Forum to officially post for the epitaph of Gen.
These Nerfs are far and away the worst, knee-jerk, poorly explained and poorly justified Nerfs to date.
In a game where hard knockdown gets nerfed with Delayed Wakeup, they still feel it was necessary to nerf Gen’s Gekiro despite the long list of requirements needed to combo into HK Gekiro.
Removing the “Mixup” cough on the post Gekiro whiff because a couple of scrubs don’t know how to appropriately punish it as well just screams to me “we listened to the screaming masses” because they can’t learn the matchup due to a vast body of the playing group having no experience with the character.
So to account for the mass body having no experience, they remove the potential for the character to meet the expectations of the people who will never be able to play him. (this is the feel of his nerfs and it’s the worst feeling because it comes from a supposed “team” of people paying attention to this for a competitive level)
Genuine weak willed nerfs, also no mentions at Jyasen being safe on block in that video. Would not be surprised if it goes 
From Vanilla until now, this is as close to the Vanilla~Super fuck up by Capcom and that says a lot.
Five Years in the making, Capcom still doesn’t know what to do with Gen.
You could have made the hitbox for HK Gekiro combo off of TC for the full cast at least. Or kept the hard knockdown and made the hitbox specifically for an AA and shifted MK Gekiro as the finisher for more damage.
In fact, there is so much that could have been done to make him more interesting and not just, worse.
Frothing with Rage. Can’t stomach these changes.
RIP and to those who are staying with him in Ultra, best of luck.
-Mooseking
Gen is dead now. let’s move on with life
I registered just to post this, I needed to get it off my chest.
For nearly two years, I’ve been playing Street Fighter on and off. I always loved fighting games in general, but never took it a step further than just some casual fun.
Despite all this, I was drawn to Gen; I loved the idea of a old assassin on the verge of death, and his game play looked like a blast. Much to my disadvantage, I went straight to Gen as my first character.
Of course this made the game all the more frustrating, as most of my opponents had much more experience under their belt than me.
Though when I did play, I spent hours in training, just to try to do hands/links consistently. I remember thinking it was impossible as a new player, and this lead to me taking breaks. I would watch tournaments from time to time, and this would reinvigorate me to try more.
Fast forward to a couple of months earlier, out of nowhere, I could do links consistently. Shortly, I found a method to doing hands, and this really got me to play much more. Finally the impossible, started to look possible.
Now…this happens. It’s hard to look at these changes with out thinking that Xian winning Evo had a huge role in this. I know it sounds a little absurd, but with few Gen players, I just can’t find many other reasons. Of course I’d take my opinion with a grain of salt, seeing how all things considered, I’m still rather inexperienced in the game.
I was looking forward to Ultra, but these changes are really disheartening. To tell you the truth, even if he didn’t get nerfed, I’d be on the fence with changing my main to Rolento. However, these changes made that a very easy choice.
Despite these nerfs, I still love Gen, but he’ll be on the bench more often. I don’t mean to sound too dramatica, but it just feels a little shitty to put so much effort into Gen, only to see Capcom encourage players to put him in a nursing home.
Exactly like that, Mooseking. If I were to choose I’d have all Gen players get together on this and just stay away from Ultra. This is far beyond acceptable. Nerfing a mid-tier character into uselessness just because he is somewhat obscure and people haven’t fully downloaded him yet. If anything they should have improved him slightly to make him more viable in the long run. Jyasen being -0 on block, crane normals getting buffs and mantis U2 landing all hits off of anti-airs and adding some stun would have been fair changes.
I would personally have wished for hands loop to be back for mk xx hands, but maybe that’s too much to ask for.
Im registering to say that this is clearly a very unexciting change list, yes im sure hes versatile, but who the fuck cares when your poking around in crane. misleading people to think these were going to be exciting changes is really dishonest. have another look and give us something new Peter. If you want to shit on everybody at least make the shit vibrant. What an indecisive and piss poor list of changes. juggle off crouching HP is at least interesting, take another
look
Consult a Gen player
We have almost almost every notable Gen player since the original character design in sf4 -
lost almost*
oh well Gen is the new Dan
Well fuck me, they also reduced the stun on u2. Not only that but they took away the super. At this point I can relate that he’s definetly nerfed. Before the buffs atleast made it somewhat less noticable, but the additional nerfs are just too harsh. Let’s just hope there is something in the final changelog.
As much as super nerf and stun nerf frustrate me I can live with it but this seems HIGHLY unfair.
I never even wanted Gen to a great character to begin with as it is the effort you have to put into him and the fact that he is an obscure character that makes me drawn to him, but when they intentionally nerf him to hell just to make him suck big time even when you’ve freaking mastered him, just because a couple of lazy players don’t want to learn how to deal with a rare matchup … then it’s all a big fuck you to us Gen players.
No idea how they can treat such a dignity infused old poet like this.
This is definetly too much. I do agree that it is dumb to nerf him. Lol damn you xian for winning evo, otheriwse we would’ve gotten buffs and would have went through.
I also secondary cammy because I like to herp derp sometimes. And funnily enough I still think she’s top 5. Her nerfs barely mean anything even though she was top tier. What is going through the minds of capcom balance testers is beyond me.
Atleast our character is not named Dee Jay. Otherwise it would have been worse. lol.
lol. game release is next week. don’t hope for anything by then
Well there could be something he didnt’ mention. These don’t include all of the changes so maybe they added new buffs too.
Actualy looking at it with a bit of more sense these nerfs still shouldn’t drop him below mid tier, I can live with that.
I’m still waiting for the full change list, which should be out today some time in Capcom unity.
Losing 50 damage in Super sucks, but we gotta remember that it now has juggle potential. I cant count how many times I pondered whether to use Crane super or not after air-to-air crane j.HK, which will be made possible from Mantis stance as well.
After focus crumple chances are we can do forward dash, Mantis jump 3K, Super instead of raw Super.
Hopefully Roll change is staying.
However, the 450-instead-of-600-stun U2 has solidified me into picking up Ultra W most of the times.
Oh yeah the juggle thing, that could potentialy be very useful. Anyway yeah we should wait for final changes, and commence the bitching.
with the Nerf on crane jHK I love the optimism.
the only thing in my books is that I will gladly trade crane sHk into mantis super.
looking at things Gen will be solid bottom tier in tournament play. delayed wake up, hands still wiffing focus range Nerf and Gen will be clawing to get life lead.
I’m not getting the game till August so I will look at you guys
I just realy hope my adapter for my ps3 fightpad comes before the release, I need to play ultra, otherwise I’ll go insane. And yeah sure I might even share some matches with the upload feature.