Ultimate web throw incoming guard breaks

Anyone seen this?

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And does anyone know of a set-up that can’t be XFC > ADU out of?

He did most of those wrong as he was doing them way too fast but the only one I see as viable was the popping x-factor then taking the hit during the buffering.

This is kind of what I was talking about before, so far I’ve only experimented with Spidey and Iron Man, and it just seems like the opponent has too much control over the situation in when they pushblock for this to be all that viable. It seems almost impossible to react to. Maybe it’s just me. You guys have any tips on how to time the UWT after PC?

It’s not timing based. Watch for when they drop not before. The reason it’s inescapable is because of where they are when you DHC when you time it wrong then yes people can escape.

Lets also not forget that if he pops xfactor you can DHC ON REACTION to the pop before they can escape.

lol if he does xf airdash up and you see it during the flash of magnetic tempest, just dhc to maximum spider, xf, kill em ;;;;

Wow, so I just set-up what I’m pretty sure is an un-XF > ADU-able guard break since you can do the DHCs on reaction to them popping (which I should have realized earlier)

You have to change what you’re doing depending on how they try to get out, but if the player doesn’t fuck it up, I think this is indeed inescapable.

What I was saying is if you look at when where and how he’s escaping he’s not letting them drop at all on the iron man. So the escapes he did wouldn’t have worked any ways which is quite obvious in the video for those who have landed it. He’s timing it in such a way that it would have whiffed to begin with. Same with the Magnus one. That hyper grav is too meaty, and that move has no block stun really that you can give it half a seconds pause before hyper grav touches them. If they do anything after that they are still in range do to UWT massive ass hitbox.

To clarify about the Iron Man part about the height and dropping down and stuff before people try to pick apart what I’m saying. The reason it won’t work is because there is still existence of guarding in that instance. Guard doesn’t disappear until they go into motion to drop. If he pushblocks late it’s not a problem unless you were timing it wrong to begin with. If you X-Factor, you just did my job for me and I can stop the Proton Cannon before the next hit because you are now active and no one dashes that fast.

Wait, so the hyper grav shouldn’t be as meaty as possible? Cause if that’s the case, that could fix this tiny hole I just found: Meaty hyper grav, they pop XF, you DHC, if they mash air dash up then a normal, they can get out sometimes, but the time to do the normal feels like a 1-frame link

They can be on the screen, meaning they’ve entered, and block the hyper grav. By the time you DHC, which is fairly quick, they can’t dash up. I’m trying to finish up my explanation of it so I can upload this video but this discovery came at a real bad time and I was almost done but noticed I missed some clips.

That did the trick, just letting them fall a hair more before the hyper grav hit them pretty much made it air-tight.

The difference between them other than the escape plan is that hyper grav still grabs if they try to do anything prior

has anyone tried hawkeye yet ?

Hawkeyes s:m: works

cool. super scatter shot?

anything for morrigan?

Yep

Is it clean? I can’t seem to get it to work cleanly. A vid would be swell.

Ill try and record it later this weekend.

Everyone should be learning magneto right now. His infinites are retardedly easy. I honestly can’t believe how easy they are.

Just in case anyone needs some direction :slight_smile:

i haven’t learned his infinites but i can do them i think dohohoho.