fuck Zero i hope they nerf that nigga into the ground
Or make him have to press :h: at least more than once.
Hmmmm that’s…nah, don’t give a fuck. Time for revenge :badboy:
790k 1 assist, 1 bar is standard. What combos are you doing?
Also, his normals are too fucking retarded for him to have lvl 3 buster give a hard knockdown. Shit, he can cancel any move into buster now. That’s a huge buff. Trading hard knockdown to soft knockdown but you also get to cancel specials into a buster? That’s a bargain and a half.
Are you ****ing serious? I’m picking up Zero.
I thought about it and Phoenix will basically be just about the same. The nerfs only affect her when she’s in play and she’s only in play when you get snapped in or she has 5 bars. The only one that really matters is the snap in where she can’t throw down 3 H shots if you don’t land a mix up. Who cares if 5 bar reg Phoenix is toned down? You still gotta deal with bullshit right after unless you got a character that can legit fight Dark Phoenix to some degree or they have specific counters like Spider Man. Everyone else has to run to the corner and try to burn it out and hope XF3 still doesn’t last 20 seconds (it looks like it still lasts about 15 seconds which is still too long IMO but eh).
Doesn’t nerfing the hard knockdown on the Z-Buster just take away his Buster xx L Teleport into Rekkoha and make it so he can’t randomly convert Buster Shot into TK Dive with an assist into combo?
That’s perfectly fine, especially if his H Dive covers more ground and he can cancel Buster out of specials. Air X-Factor might actually allow him to combo after Genmu Zero.
Zero for S-Tier in Ultimate.
Being someone who mains Zero, I personally favor the buster being soft knockdown in some situations. Shooting a buster into a hard knockdown can slow down your momentum a lot, and give your opponent a lot more time to think about an incoming mix-up, which way to roll out of it if you give any hint as to what you’re going to do next, etc provided if you don’t OTG with a supporting assist in time, of course.
Since there’s no hard knockdown, it’s less time for to think, and you keep the match momentum.
That’s how I see things. 
Also, with his new angle on the H version of Sentsuizan, buster cancelling on specials, and whatever other buffs I’m missing, I’m fine with it losing hard knockdown.
Please tell me you are joking. Her One action per jump nerf is very serious and being understated by the community as a whole. Even if you don’t do the jump back salty ball spam (Which I don’t) It severely limits your options. Making a character with 300k health easier to anticipate is really dumb and she can be chipped out with any character with a beam super and X factor ready now. I will try her out day one … on point where she has always been when I play her but I am not expecting much out of her. If she is as AssTier as I am expecting no one will play her for any reason why handicap your team? They made it so you can drain meter any time you want which was a nerf to accessing DP then they said hey lets rape Jean also.
Well you have to factor in the specific points of the match where those nerfs really matter. Long as you don’t get snapped in you don’t have to worry and no good Phoenix player is not going to be mashing on the forward tag anytime they get launched any way. Not being able to to throw out a bunch of H shots when you have 5 meters is no big deal because you’re already on your way to winning any ways. It’ll just get Dark Phoenix popped and get the match going quicker.
I agree. It will help him. It won’t allow for some OTG+assist combo situations which I’m happy for but it isn’t a bad trade-off for zero. And its only right seeing he can cancel into buster shot anytime anywhere now. Hes only stronger it seems. In theory. I’m even more scared of him now because of that. I need an anti-zero team now.
Wouldn’t you rather they balance her properly? Balancing a character around things like:lvl3 xfactor,dark phoenix that your opponent actually activates by choice
Doesn’t make too much sense to me. I’d rather the character function properly rather than become useless over 90% of the time(what with all the brand new weaknesses) and has a 9-1 matchup the rest of the time that she isn’t useless…assuming lvl 3 xfactor is still around.
And i’m not a phoenix player. I just realize if they just nerf the crap out of one character for the sake of hatred then someone worse will probably fill their shoes and absolutely nothing is solved. Never enough time to do it right, always enough time to do it again.
My Zero BnB does 763K. 1 bar and 1 meter lol. How the hell are you getting 500k with two assists?
Of course the way they’re going about the balancing is the wrong way just like they went the wrong way with the kneejerk 400k health nerf for Sent but…it’s Capcom so they’re gonna do them. I don’t argue with Capcom once they’ve done their dirty work anymore. That’s why I like 3S…don’t gotta worry about waking up and your character is nerfed LOL.
I’m just saying after really thinking about it the nerfs don’t really affect her that much since it will still be rather easy to build 5 bars and stop attempts to steal meter from her team also. The only time it’s going to matter is if you’re getting snapped in and although the H shot nerf will make it easier to kill her on the snap I don’t see it being so bad that people are going to runaway from using Phoenix. The bullshit at the end is still the same just a bit harder to attain than it used to be. Just like how the Sent nerf still kept him rather viable despite things. I still think he dies too fast for how big and clunky he is (especially without assists backing him) but he’s not done and out especially with that strong assist.
If Dark Phoenix or XF3 got signficant nerfs it would be a much bigger deal. Once I heard those two things will be relatively the same I figured Phoenix will still be too strong of an option to not use in tourneys. Those were the two big things I figured they would attack but it’s obvious XF3 DP is something they want to be a part of Phoenix’s play style. She definitely won’t turn into the Vanilla Arthur or Chun Li of Ultimate.
HIDE YO KIDS HIDE YO WIVES CAUSE THE NERFIN ERRBODY UP IN HERE!!!
They really aren’t going to be relatively the same though. Even Dark Phoenix loses jump, H Shot> Teleport. Which means you’re going to saving 5 bars and x-factor for a comeback mechanic that…still wants assists? I mean, if these were changes only to Dark Phoenix, I wouldn’t really give a fuck, but I actually like playing Phoenix, and put rather a lot of effort into my matches to attempt to win without ever needing Dark Phoenix. They’re making Phoenix into 100% dead weight until XF3 Dark Phoenix, and even then, she’s considerably worse than she was because the “self assist” is basically gone. Staying on the ground running the trap and ground fireball game just begs to eat a beam hyper.
Stop being a retard, or stop whining unnecessarily. Your pick.
Thor is my main Character the only reason I even care about the phoenix nerfs is because I do not believe in wasted character slots. As for your Response why insult the mentally handicapped? If I were a “retard” I would be highly offended. You should be ashamed of your self. When someone does not agree with your opinion that does not constitute whining, either be constructive or simply don’t be. Your Pick. Insulting someone with ignorance is a sign of a limited intellect.
Which characters do you think are going to benefit the most from aerial XF?
fuck “X Character” i hope they nerf the nigga into the ground
This is a statement that should be punishable by violence, sigh. I don’t quite know why (so serious), but this statement enrages me so fucking much. Its one thing to want balance, its another thing to be an entitled prick or to lose your shit over a game (or even to troll because not many people are serious anymore on the internet once someone has a problem with what they said).