The only things that really need to be “nerfed,” really, are things that are clearly wonky like the hitboxes I stated earlier (why does Wesker get that weirdo bullet anyway?) and Taskmaster’s unscaled arrows, and maybe when the risk/reward factor of a character becomes way more unbalanced than expected (DarkFactor Phoenix). Stuff like the infamous assists probably also get thrown into that category.
But otherwise, nerfing isn’t progressive when it isn’t needed. I suppose it’s easier to nerf than to buff, because so far, the dregs-tier characters haven’t gotten a whole lot. In fact, they’ve almost gone nowhere (at least when I think of Joe/Arthur/Hsien-Ko anyway). Help those guys out and we can all be happy, unless you have some weird grudge against them of course. The only problem is that in this game, you almost have to be broken to be good, unless your name is Taskmaster, Amaterasu, or Viper, who all happen to be the well-balanced characters, in my opinion.
As for why they do health nerfs, I guess it’s because it’s the simplest tweak you could give to a character. Quick n’ easy.
I’m tired and kind of rushed through that on an iPhone. My apologies if it makes no sense whatsoever.
^Exactly. I dunno how anyone can argue against reasonable nerfs like Derper slash being slower/not invincible or Haggar’s lariat only causing soft knockdown.
I don’t understand the Phoenix nerfs at all, but the X-Factor nerf was welcome for me! Also the DHC Glitch removal. If it matters, I’m not a Phoenix player, but I definitely find a decent challenge in facing Phoenix teams before they blow me up. A good Phoenix team will definitely keep you on your toes, and something of that nature should be kept in tact in this game anyways.
Sent’s health should definitely go back up to 1.1mil as Diet has stated, but oh well.
On the contrary, excited to see all of the Ryu buffs firsthand.
I don’t particularly think they are arguing those nerfs, they are arguing any nerf outside what is absolutely necessary. Nerfing should always be the absolute last resort to balancing a character with the rest of the cast. Period. Unless it is as vital as taking the invincibility off of Wolvie Derp Slash, don’t nerf it. Just buff everyone elses. Buffing > Nerfing whenever you can get away with it.
Also lol @ the salt over Dante’s cr.L, since s.L will still provide wonderful anti-air while having so much range its nearly a zoning tool. A fair tradeoff for having the most start-up of everyone.
rather than slowing it down, how about giving it less invul frames so its not an all purpose cleaner. Like less so that when I/you decide to unibeam he doesn’t fly right through the beam. which is the actual issue at hand. you don’ need to nerf anything about haggar. Just fix the underlying mechanics of assists. You get hit block/actual hit, assist does not come out. These things make more sense than nerfing an assist that does its job.
Haggar reminds me of metal zangief, i can just imagine how pissed of you fellas would have been in a game called MvC2.
So taking away the untechable knockdown from a move that will come out even if you already started a combo, which some characters can use to kill you, is not right?
I work in the software industry and a lot of times the products that we create have exploits or bugs we didn’t expect. Its hard to anticipate every scenario and sometimes you just got to launch your product with the best you can do at the time. When they created Marvel 3 they did so with a specific intention of how to play the game with certain boundaries in mind. For being one that was going to be played so heavily, I feel like they didn’t spend enough time in the testing phase. Its hard to believe that they missed the DHC glitch…
So like any piece of software there are mistakes and some characters and or abilities we’re more powerful ( or less ) then they intended. Those powerful characters we’re not intended to be that strong, just as the sucky ones aren’t supposed to be that bad. You have to NERF and BUFF to truly balance the game to it’s intended state.
If you feel like there is something wrong with the product YOU PAID MONEY FOR then your entirely entitled to create a forum and voice your complaints. You may be right or wrong, but the developers appreciate the feedback on the product they’re trying to improve for you.
People have the right to bitch about the game… and nerfs need to happen to keep the game fun for as long as possible. Most people have their limit of bullshit loses before the game begins to lose its “fun value”. Akuma and wolverine was we’re in almost 50% of the matches at EVO. Regardless if thats overpowered or not, it made some lame ass boring matches. So let the bitching continue, and let the nerf bat swing FREELY!
Cause it’d be so bad for Captain America, and Ryu to be top tier for once in a versus series… AND STILL HAVE NO ONE PLAY THEM. Know why? Cause everyone will still play the feminine sissy sword wielding douchebags, wolverine, wesker, or magneto due to how they look.
read, and re read what I said again. the problem with Faggar and Tranny is that even if you land a clean hit they come out, combo break the fuck out of you, and give the opponent a free knockdown. What’s the actual issue at hand in this situation? Not Haggar, thats a given, its the unederlying mechanics of the game, which make the game more random than it should be. there is no fixing those assists without making them bad. Fix how assists work as a hole to address al those other future assists that will replace Faggar and Tranny. Problem solved.
in the event that you did not re-read, and still don’t get.
If I GET HIT, HAGGAR OR TRON OR WHATEVER DOES NOT COME OUT, EVEN IF I HAD CALLED THEM OUT. I AM GOING TO MAKE THIS REALLY OBVIOUS SO YOU CAN CATCH IT IN THE EVENT THAT YOU STILL DON’T CATCH IT.
I’m really happy about the Magneto and Akuma nerf, the Magnetic Disruptor projectile and the Heavy Tatsu move/assist were annoying as hell. I admit as a Zero main I’m mad salty about his Buster causing a soft knockdown because now half and possibly more of his combo potential will be weaker and less versatile.
tbh i would rather vs all those characters than retards spamming tatsu… it’s not the fact that it’s a winning strategy… it’s the fact that it is so fucking annoying because that shit goes through everything and travels full screen
I agree that an inherent flaw is that assists come out no matter what, but Haggar still has 60 invulnerability frames and bounces you up for a good while. It’s not gonna be the worst assist ever.
Fixing a retard by giving everyone else down syndrome doesn’t make that part less retarded. Nerfs and buffs go hand in hand.
Wesker Wesker Wesker…as far as I’m concerned, he wasn’t nerfed enough.
They really need to make an online specific nerf for him because his teleports are unblockable thanks to shitty netcode. Maybe give him 1 gunshot per 5 seconds, and 1 teleport per 10 seconds.