I haven’t heard anything about Joe to be honest. The slow-mo dodge does seem pretty outrageous though. Just… OTG RHK… and I will shut up about him, and you’re not weak-hearted. You would have abandoned her if you were. It’s just a big fucking pain playing with a gimped team.
Luckily for me I can have Joe and Tron on the same team given flame makes him so much more ambiguous. I always imagine my opponents going, “c. or overhead? c. or overhead!!?” As the second I sometimes run a terrible Amaterasu but normally Doom for Missile pressure/protection/hard as fuck OTG extension (OTG RHK Capcom. Come the fuck on).
We are some redundant gentlemen, huh? But that’s how you spread the word!
lol. I remember in my very first match facing a Dormammu that was just spamming Dark Matters( :f::h:) from the corner and taking him down with Hsien-Ko. He gave me all that time to airwaltz over to him and start a combo. And that’s when I got my very first hatemail too. Well, it was my friend’s PS3, anyway.
But of all things that need a buff, it’s the netcode.
Uh, folks, as of the SDCC build, not a damn thing changed with Wesker’s teleports. They’re that unsafe without an assist right fucking now. Gunshot to teleport is not safe, unless the shot anti airs/juggles, or Wesker is in x-factor. If Wesker’s running around teleporting in on you without assists, just mash c.L.=/
Also, not every character that benefited from the DHC glitch was already good.
Hey you know, I wants to hear more about everyone’s buffs. Since, you know, buffs>nerfs.
Like I’d really be interested in seeing what Chris got (if anything) besides faster specials, because if anyone needed air options, Chris did. I mean, the only anti-air that comes to mind at all is Flamethrower, and you still need to predict the landing with that.
I seem to recall Chris getting a faster or beter dash. Something about his dash, anyway. Which I imagine is welcome. Also something about going Prone, I think.
This is going to take a bit, so I might as well address these posts now and get everything done within the next two hours or so. So much stuff to do still…
You are correct good sir. No one can top The Truth.
I hear you–though I’m not presently familiar about the new items “buffs” you’re talking about, which means I guess I’ll have to go check. It annoyed the hell out of me to see that bombs didn’t explode on unblocked hit or that H projectile doesn’t hit overhead or she basically can’t move in the air even though she can’t really advance on the ground or…
But, yeah, that pendelum move is just there to troll everyone at this point. It’s like “let’s give her the potential to be possibly ambiguous in her approaches, but make the move start-up slow, her too slow to actually rush people down and her only get really use out of it in a mode that lasts 6 seconds, which is less time than a full pendulum swing in both directions lasts. Genius!”
But, yeah, thankfully I like archery, so I’m all over Hawkeye.
That’s kinda of the problem, especially given Zero’s range versus his size. At least Dante is kinda of tall. I think Zero’s sword is almost as big as him too despite him being on the shorter side of the cast.
I’m not going to act like I know how to fix it (outside of what Nobus brought up), especially since I don’t use him, but you can’t act like it’s not problematic.
He’s hardly the only person I was talking about, though–just one of the people who I feel benefits it from the most given you can’t contest generally his normals.
Hunh. I had heard they were going to make them (slightly) slower. Perhaps that was false.
Anyway, I’m pretty sure no one said that he was safe doing it just random horizontally forward teleports without assists backing him up. Yes, he gets fucked up if he does…which is why no one does that, even in X-Factor. It’s pretty much always diagonally forward teleports or forward teleports covered by assists.
So, yeah, your “advice” doesn’t really change or answer anything that I said–thank you for the information about SDCC though–or change the fact that it’s kind of idiotic that he (and Magneto) manages to zone better than half of the zoning characters due to one move (combined with air H teleport) when he can rush down better than most characters.
Ah, shit. I thought I said “Only mostly” or “only really”. My bad. I’ll go edit that in.
Regardless, though, most of the characters it did benefit (the most) were already good. It’s not like DHC glitching with Arthur or Hsien-ko added substantially added to their power or use or anything.
Am I missing any characters it helped who otherwise “suck” according to most people that actually got them be used? Viewtful Joe, M.O.D.O.K. and Thor come to mind, but it’s not like it caused their use to go rocketing up either.
Making him have a hurtbox where he isn’t present, thus making him a really big target and hurting him as a character badly
or
Removing him from the game.
I don’t see a in between here because there is no filler to fill to make his hit boxes fair. The only way to make hit boxes fairer for a character like Zero is to make them completely organic, and contour to the sword. But even then he still will outrange the cast and you won’t feel like the satisfied your/peoples issue with Zero’s invisible hit box.
It is problematic, but that it can’t really be fixed because it the nature of his character design as a character in general. WEll at least imo.
The Anki Hou “buff” is throwing new items, which include a snowman (freezes, but not like Chris’ grenades), an oil barrel (more durability I think), Chris’ stunrod (electrifies), Silver (or is it Steel? Whatever the P. Wright one is) Samurai statuette and cat statue (staggers). Yup.
Her command-normals are also jump-cancelable. I think Chireitou (blades hyper) also comes out quicker, and ground gong is slightly faster. Nooneyouknow said earlier that she got marginally faster.
And if you want to, look up some gameplay vids of her from Vampire Savior, if you want a clue as to how her tools should actually function. I’d link one here, but I’m afraid I’d be veering off-topic too much.
Providing evidence for your reasoning to be sodium-prone wouldn’t be too far off topic. Go for it. This thread isn’t exactly one of the most rigid subject. I mean, it was perfectly fine for us to go on multiple single character tirades (mostly Dante & Hsien-Ko) without having an off-topic issue.
What I just don’t like is how Capcom nerfs characters in MvC3 and now in UMvC3. What Capcom did to Sentinel for example was just a very bad nerf.
Capcom’s Chief of Balancing: “Oh, so guys… About Sentinel… he seems a bit to strong doesn’t he? Well… Let’s nerf his health by 31%. Seems good enough, NEXT”
These kind of nerfs is not what I am looking forward to. What I am afraid of what is going to happen in UMvC3 is that characters like Magneto, Wolverine and Wesker are going to be absolute garbage, and characters that (should) get buffed will be completely hilariously overpowered.
Phoenix is still going to be a key character for most if her nerfs stay as limited as they are now. But don’t forget that the degree that X-factor is going to be nerfed isn’t final yet and X-factor is a key for Phoenix so it might just break her completely.
I’d like to see some very educated nerfs and buffs instead of just changing the health around. And of course fixing the bugs/glitches like DHC glitch and TAC glitch.
But all I am saying is there will be new Wolvy/Akuma teams that everyone hates, because a game like this is not possible to balance so that there will be no superior characters, but I hope Capcom will atleast show they are trying this time.
Zero’s problem was never the range on his normals it was the priority. Specifically his cr.B and jumping C. Just stupid.
I cant believe it beats divekicks. And not a well-timed one, just some scrub mashing C. Then they get all day to hit confirm into a ridiculously long combo.
I was just saying. I have so much anti-Zero, Dante, Wesker and Wolverine technology already that it would be utterly sad if they couldnt put up a fight at all in Ultimate.
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Yeah, yeah, different engines and all that. But at least people will know where Hsien-Ko players’ salt comes from. Don’t understand why she’d lose the ability to cancel her Pendulums, at least.
Which is funny. Didn’t either Seth or Niitsuma say that they tried to keep characters close to what they were in their home series (hence why Morrigan has Finishing Shower instead of Soul Eraser)?
From the way things are going so far, it seems like the very top is getting nerfed, the bottom and middle aren’t going anywhere, and the top-but-not-broken are just getting even better.
or overhead? c.