Rabble rabble hitboxes rabble rabble pressing buttons like a retard because… Well just because. RABBLE.
The only reason Beehive is harder than any other style cancel is Volcano only cancels to Beehive on hit/block, not whiff.
Oh, yes, because that is clearly why LL.ND lost to P. Gorath. She just didn’t have enough items to throw his way! That’s it! Never mind that her damage was so crap that it couldn’t even finish off Shuma (who also needs a buff btw). Or that she couldn’t catch up to who she needed to kill.
Seriously, there’s something wrong when people cheer when you get a combo off or get a KO with a character, as if it’s some amazing feat. Though I’ll admit that airthrow against Storm in the last Marvel Second at that WNF was hype.
And that was my morning salt.
Hsien-ko was marginally faster in the SDCC build. Not enough to actually help, but enough for it to visually noticeable.
Oh no I was just getting to that part.
Yes I’m entitled to a teleport that tracks you everywhere you go when it is punishable on reaction near every time.
Yes I am entitled to options for screen control at any range when Unibeam, Disruptah, and Doom’s Beam stuff me easily.
Yes I am entitled to epic screen-covering normals when whiffing them will equate to One-Touch death at the hands of anyone you can generate 900k combo, which is like everyone (even though some have to spend more meter than others)
Yes I’m entitled to one braindead defense (Hammer) when it is my only defense, said defense is getting nerfed, and the only suitable replacements via assists (Tron & Haggar) are also being nerfed.
So yeah, as far a balancing issues go, I’m entitled to all of it because it is not nearly as free as you want to make it sound. Dante takes execution, has open, usable weaknesses and is still good, but won’t ever be broken in the sense of someone like Wolverine vanilla, where everything he does is safe, assists make him unstoppable and his cross-up and mix-up games are TOTALLY STUPID EASY FREE. It’s just not like that regardless what you currently think.
Hulk doesn’t have any of this stuff, yet some how he isn’t stupid free. He is just somewhat free. Dante has good options against ALL the cast, I don’t see that as a problem, but it is time to spread the love.
That’s… false.
Volcano is only jump cancellable on hit/block, going into beehive can be done on whiff or before the volcano section even comes out.
This is true. This game is a game where a lot of the current characters need love.
Joe needs love. Hsien-Ko needs love. The Mayor needs love (more than just assist abuse, give him a move FOR GETTING IN). MODOK needs love. Others I did not name need love. Speed needs to make love with Thor.
They should be spreading love, and so should we when we’re looking for Capcom to balance. Honey will go farther than salt I assure you. At least for our own enjoyment.
Ninjas All Day, I’m responding to Nova with this, figured I’d edit that in.
Edit #2: You know, looking back @ my response to Trauma’s entitlement rant, I realize I only used the word entitled to make a point out of what he/she was saying, so when you read it, replace entitled with balanced or something.
no, you can do it on whiff actually
You actually can? I’ve never managed it, or seen it cancel on whiff in any video ever. Even tutorials that just show off his moves always cancel into it on hit. Well, if I’m wrong, I’m wrong.
Edit: Still can’t do it on whiff. Never miss the cancel to Beehive on hit, never yet managed on whiff. Twister to Tempest is cake no matter what.
Edit: Again, ok, now I’ve managed it. Holy crap that’s a difficult cancel on whiff. Why the hell is that one so much easier on hit?
Is that towards Zero? Or me?
Anyways, Wesker = ez mode, Me = salty.
I’m glad he he got the nerf bat for the man-whore he is, always trying to spread he seed.
/salty
Alright, i’ll give you some of these points, but not all.
First off, I obviously used the term “broken” loosely. I will admit that he is beatable and nowhere near Phoenix/Wolverine levels of stupid. However on some of your point you are plain wrong.
First, his teleport is not at all easy to react to in the midst of Marvel chaos. It is not as telegraphed as say Weskers teleport is. In conjunction with assist actually IS unpunishable most of the time. Added to that the fact that coming out of it he can just cancel into hammer (making any and all attempted punishes extremely to begin with) and the thing doesnt require you to space it in any way, shape or form, i will go on and say that it is easily one of the best teleports in game. Also, resets and unblockables.
I will type more later, this is pretty tiring on a phone.
Is this… the Dante sub-forum? He’s going to be on of the strongest character in Ultimate. End-of-story.
Besides, it is clear at this point powerful character that don’t rule the Metagame (Zero, Viper, Doom, Dante, etc…) are all getting buffed in some significant ways, and, according to gameplay we have seen and what we have heard, some new characters are going to be pretty powerful (If anything, Strider is strong enough for everyone new), so… I have no idea where Capcom’s priorities lay. I suppose I will just Servbot zone with Tron. Actually, that sounds fun as fuck.
Also, with all this talk of being close to the in-game incarnation, I really wish this applied to Joe as much as it does to Dante. Just because he didn’t have 50 billion moves, doesn’t mean his game’s weren’t extremely combo-centric, and actually focused on *NOT *being hit at all. Guess I can’t really whine with the cool new dodge move… I just really want OTG Red Hot Kick… and air ok, not self hurting Shocking Pinks… /salt.
probably easier on hit because of hitstop.
doing it consistently on whiff was the key to me getting volcano>beehive much more consistently. it’s not that hard though, tbh.
Lol @ dante salt.
Seems like SRKers want every character to be as shitty as the ones they play. I can only imagine how much fun this game would be if the devs let SRKers handle balance lol.
People complaining about his S.L, really? If you get anti aired, blame your non existent footsies instead of someone who anti aired you with a slow normal. Complaining about the range doesn’t mean much, why are you throwing a normal that can’t hit when you know the guy in front of you has a sword and will anti air you?
Complain about real stuff plz, like how you can’t ever punish him for whiffing a normal or something like that.
For the love of god please nerf Hsien-Ko she is S-rank her projectiles are to fast and that gong is to good plus she has a beastly teleport and a god like assist
Not really. Drive, C gunshots, Stinger body seismo at that range. I’ve blown up vipers trying to seismo and catch an assist with full screen stinger into reverb shock.
sad but true and i hate fighting both of these characters so much already
DANTE DEFENSE FORCE, HOOOO!!!
Where’s that tranny who was crying over Britney Spears when you need him/her?