RSE: http://www.smogon.com/rs/tiers
GSC: http://www.smogon.com/gs/tiers
RBY: http://www.smogon.com/rb/tiers
Well, itās about the time of year to do a tier list for SvR 2007.
I donāt own the game, but it looks like
Khali >>> Super Heavyweights > Kurt Angle, HHH >>> Everyone else.
Exactly like HCTP again, it seems.
Itās like the balance is going in reverse with each new SD! game releasedā¦
Tierās for maximum carnage? talking about the dudes that help spidey and vemon here XD
Holy crapā¦itās been ages since I played Maximum Carnageā¦I owned the Genesis version but sold it LOOOONG ago.
From what I remember Cloak was the top helper because he damaged everything on the screen and knocked them down without fail.
Firestar is also notable because she REALLY hurts Carnage, who is the only boss who consistently gives you trouble.
Top: Cloak, Firestar
Upper: Spidey/Venom (Reed Richardsā Sonic Gun), Dagger
Mid: Deathlok, Iron Fist
Low: Black Cat, Morbius
Bottom: Captain America
capās assist is pretty damn useless. sometimes he just tossās his sheild out and it doesnt do any thing XD
Pretty muchā¦
Funny how Cap was one of the most valuable support character in the Maximum Carnage comic series yet sucks SOOOOO much in the gameā¦
Having Firestar do extra damage to Carnage is a nice touch and nod to the comic storyline (and a life-saver, gameplay-wise).
Damnā¦I didnāt really like the game back when I had it, but now I look back on it and see how underrated it was.
Not to mention how religiously it followed the comic series, down to every aspect of the gameplay. It was a miracle, considering how bad so many of the other Comic-Licensed games at the time were.
Iām just curious if this has happened with anyone, Iāve had it happen lots of times in Maximum Carnage where Iām Spiderman and when I summon Morbiusā¦all he does is fly in the air across the screen and doesnāt do jack shit. I have to end up smacking the mobs because all of their attention is upon Mobius.
The thing is, Mobius only seems to do this when Iām Spiderman, however when Iām Venom, he actually attacks, I believe it was on a certain stage, where Mobius only does this, but I do remember him just flying by, ALL the times I used himā¦which completely pissed me off.
Btw, Shiki, I agree with your Tier Listing of the characters, FireStar was rape, Capt. America is truly fucken useless in MC. Also, anyone āusedā to play Ragnarok Online? If so, maybe we should gather around and make a Tier Listing for Best Pvping Classes in there, should be interesting imo.
Yeah, I remember the Morbius that floating thing back in the day. It just lets you get some free hits in. Do more assists change depending on who youāre playing as?
Yeah, for Firestar, Morbius, Black Cat, and Iron Fist, I think.
dagger changes jsut to chang. for some reason she stops making the ground go white and just shoots shit out of her hand.
what about a tier list for Rock sissorās paper =p just joking
Spider-Man & Venom: Separation Anxiety
Now i know there are not alof of assit in this game but lets give the assist a whorl
i think ghost rider was by far the best. and dear devil sucked alot of balls.
PS2
Eyeshield 21: Amefut no Yarouze
God Tier(and banned):
Deimon Devil Bats
Top Tier:
Oujou White Knights
Upper Mid:
Shinryuuji Nagas
Mid Tier:
NASA Aliens
Zokugaku Chameleons
Seibu Wild Gunmen
Bottom Tier:
Taiyo Sphinx
This is only my opinion, i could be mistaken, but this is how i feel things look:
Shikigami no Shiro 2 (aka Castle Shikigami 2):
Top:
āKim de John
āNiigi GB
Upper Mid:
āRoger Sasuke
Mid:
āKotarou Kuga
āSayo Yuki
Low mid:
āFumiko OV
Low:
āGennojo Hyuga
tiers for final fantacy 7? lets talk summons
Character tiers for FF7 have already been done, and as for summons, well the only summons even worth using at the very end of the game are KotR, Hades, and Phoenixā¦
Knightās of the Round > Everything else.
NINJA EDIT: Totally forgot about Hades and Phoenix.
No man you gotta combine some shit there. Knights of the round + w summon. you get twice the knights
and quadra magic+zero bahomate
then final attact + Phonix
Zero Bahamut is quite obsolete at the end of the game.
Why waste 7 minutes of your life for each Quadra Summon of Zero Bahamut for 4x9999 damage when you can do 4x9999 damage in 7 seconds with 4x Cut?
Zero Bahamut ends up being no better than any other obsolete/worthless summon at the end of the game.
KotR is the only summon that can do over 9999 damage in a single summon.
Phoenix can revive characters.
Hades can inflict status effects, even on mega bosses like the WEAPONS.
Every other summon is unneccessary and useless.
Top:
-Knights of the Round (13 x 9999)
-Hades (Inflicts Sleep, Poison, Confusion, Silence, Slow, Frog, Small, Paralyse 100% GUARANTEED on all targets who are not immune, can be combined with Added Effect)
Upper:
-Phoenix (Revives everybodyā¦can be combined with Final Attack)
Mid:
-Odin (Inflict Instant Death on everything not immune to itā¦works like the Remove spell but much better because you still get gil/items, costs less MP, and guaranteed to do damage if target is immune to Death)
Obsolete:
-Everything else
yeah thats true enough. But with cloud I donāt use 4x Cut, I go omnislash + mimic and knights of the rounds with w summon best things everrr
A bit late, but eh.
Donkus:
> Tiers do not apply because you canāt use the characters when you want? This is incorrect. There are still good and bad characters. At the very least you can consider the final five.
The tiers in FFIV are largely irrelevant without a Gameshark. Yes, you can tier the final five (Rydiaās the best character), but since you have to use them all, why bother?
> Your tiers for FF4 are wrong. Iām not going to bother with advance since that game sucks, nevertheless you still have some mistakes in that part.
Iād like an explanation as to why. I stand by everything that I said there.
Your tier list for FFIV w/ Gameshark also means nothing to me. Iām not saying itās wrong, just that thereās no explanation for any of it (Rosa below Fusoya?)
> Yangās HP are not capped at 6000, they stop growing, probably due to a bug, after level 70. This has existed in all versions of FF4.
I know this has existed in all versions. But how is āNot growing after level 70ā (where it remains stuck at 6000) any different from ācapped at 6000ā? Iām aware that itās a glitch, but the cause is irrelevant. Yangās HP is capped at 6000 whether intentional or not.
> Your Xenogears tiers are also wrong. Nobody can blame you though, since that game was very poor and discourages people from paying close attention to it.
No. I stand by the tiers, and I stand by Xenogears as a great game (though it does have issues).
Your human tier list isnāt really much different to mine. You just have Fei and Citan swapped and Elly a little higher. Fei and Citan are debatable - I think Citanās insnae speed makes him keep up with Feiās damage even though his last deathblow does twice as much damage as everything else, but Elly is definitely hanging out in the bottom with Rico and Chu Chu. Maria at least has a way to inflict damage, even if itās not very good. And Billy is better than Bart - faster, better spells, stronger damage.
I also disagree with your gear list.
Okay, Chu Chu definitely has the potential to be the best if you play for 189712987120109 hours, or if you use a Gameshark for money. Not disputing that. I even made a mention of how she can either be the best gear character or the worst, though under normal conditions, sheās the worst.
While itās true that you need Andari to defeat Alpha Weltall, I donāt see how you can possibly solo Alpha Weltall with Andvari. Youāll need to explain how that works to me. Andvari is there for Wild Smile and to use Sonic Whip to reduce AWās Eth damage. Even with Evasion Rings and as much response as possible, Iāve never been able to fight AW without getting hit at least once, and usually losing a character. In that fight, El Remnazuo is just as important since heās doing 9999 damage per turn. Regardless of their importance in that one fight, I wouldnāt say either gear is the best in the game.
Ranking Brigandier high. Seriously, what criteria are you using here? Are you using a Gameshark that enables you to have all gears available at once? Ranking them during the game? End game? Iām confused here, cause while Brigandier is pretty good, I couldnāt seriously rank it better than the later gears you get. Not unless you also have codes to give Brigandier better equipment or something (I donāt know, Iām asking, since Iāve never used a GS with XG). Certainly not above Xenogears, Vierge, Weltall 2, etc. And thereās absolutely no reason to use Heimdal ever.
Tetris Attack tiers
Blaarg
Flying Wiggler
Raphael
Hookbill
Everyone else
Pokemon Puzzle League tiers
Lorelei
Lt. Surge
Everyone else
Try and disagree with that 