Putting Red in mid? Wtf? What happened to sly domination?
It’s simple as hell, and doesn’t need a book to explain it, but Goblin Grenade xx Fireblast is top tier, easy
my friend would always beat the xmen game with storm using 1 credit.
he always said that the range/stun on her wand was broken as fuck…
Storm and Nightcrawler were tops IMO. Storm’s range and nightcrawler was the only one that could duck while attacking and avoid enemy attacks.
The Idol M@ster (Arcade version):
Top (total stat points)
Chihaya (78)
Iori (74)
Ritsuko (72)
Mid:
Makoto (60)
Asuza (58)
Lower Mid:
Haruka (54)
Low:
Yayoi (50)
Yukiho (50)
Ami&Mami (48)
Chihaya, Iori, and Ritsuko have mad crazy points in Vocal, Dance, and Visual. While they dont have much of anything in “character” (Chihaya and Iori have like, 1 point, Ritsuko has 3) the fact that they have SO MUCH in the main three categories proves their top-ness.
Makoto is the most well-rounded character because her points in like, every category is pretty close (ranges from 11-19 for each category), but nothing exceptionally high like Chihaya (who has like, a 37 in Vocals) or Iori (a 33 in Visual). The next highest number to even show up after those is the bottom three with 27 in personality, and then a few 25s and it goes down from there.
Asuza and Haruka are really weak in dance, only 5 points in each, and nothing exceptional in any other category.
As i said above, Yayoi, Yukiho, and Ami/Mami have 27 points in “personality” but their other stats for visual, vocal, and dance are SUPER weak. Yayoi has 5 in vocal, 7 in visual, and 11 in dance. Yukiho has 7 in vocal, 1 in dance, and 15 in visual. Ami/Mami have 1 in vocal, 13 in dance, and 7 in visual.
Yeah, i’d be surprised if anyone else has even HEARD of Idol M@ster, much less understand this, but hey, still fun to tier Idol M@ster, lol.
edit: Changed Haruka to lower mid instead of mid. Shes not really in the same tier as Makoto and Asuza, but shes not as bad as Yukiho, Yayoi, and the twins.
It’s there if you want it.
Why the characters are ranked that way?
1.
Golbez is glitchy and probably shouldn’t have been in the list. It’s possible for him to cast Double Meteo every turn, which is instant, costs nothing, and does the maximum damage.
2.
*Rydia (Flare, Bomb, Bahamut are her best spells, excellent stats, 12x defense mod)
*Rydia (child) (same as adult, minus some crappy summons and spells.)
*Cain, Cecil, Palom (Cain and Cecil are the same, good damage each turn and they are hard to kill. Cain is even harder to kill since he can sit in the back row with no penalty. Cecil and Cain have excellent stats. Palom has Black and better stats than Fu So Ya. He can increase his magic damage with his special.)
*Edge (Edge has crappier defense but he can sit in the back row and throw things. His stats are good and I should have put him near Rydia.)
3rd
*Fu So Ya (stats are spotty but he has all Black and White spells.)
*Rosa (better stats than Beardman, but less versatility and Holy takes too long to cast)
*Porom (Rosa without bows)
*Yang (does a ton of damage and has defense problems outside of Adamant armors)
4th
*Cid (similar stats as Yang, less agility and crappy equipment puts him here.)
*Tellah (doesn’t have Flare, terrible stats)
*Gilbert (best stats in the game, can do nothing with them)
*DK Cecil ( his great attacking stats are ruined by his worthless equipment. At least Gilbert can wear Adamant.)
Advance is a terrible edition of this game, so my analysis doesn’t consider it.
Because he can have a final HP of 5800-6200. His HP stop upon reaching 71, even if they were 6000 when he got to 70.
Xenogears is such a piece of crap I won’t spend any more time on it. I’m embarrassed I ever played it. I will only say Bart’s gears are identical except for a slight attack coefficient difference. Now I’m going take the time I would have spent arguing about Xenogears and spend it on writing a delicious, low-fat letter to H&R Block.
re: FFIV list
I can’t really comment, having never used a Game Genie to that extent (actually, to any extent) on the game. The one thing I would argue is Rosa should be over Fusoya. Doesn’t Rosa have much better stats, including MUCH better HP and MP? I think her ability to last much longer in a fight would count for more than havingall Black Magic; not with his shitty stats.
And Fusoya’s Holy is faster? Is his speed higher or something, or is it something unique to him?
Sorry you played some mutant version of Xenogears. The version I played had some issues, but I thought was a fantastic game overall. I’d really love to know how you get to solo Alpha Weltall in your version.
I checked my savestates and realized I made two errors. Yang’s HP seem to stop growing at 60, not 71. The HP values I listed are still correct, though. Also, Rydia’s defense mod will go as high as 18, not 12. 18 is the value used by properly raised fighters like the Cecils and Cain.
Fu So Ya does have less MP and HP and no vitality, but since he sits in the back row with proper equipment, he shouldn’t be taking damage anyway. If you want you can have Cecil cover him. His aggregate magic defense stats are not much lower than Rosa’s. If his HP become a problem, you can fix it with apples.
Holy is slower than Flare, and some enemies resist it. Those are the two big attack spells of each school. Holy is pretty much Rosa’s only damage option unless you want to use the best bow and arrows. Which is not as strong, but not that bad.
In the end, Rosa has arrows over Beardman. I’d rather lose those and have access to all Black spells.
Ah I see. I guess you’re considering everyone having Adamant armour then?
There are apples in the original FFIV? I thought that was something they added to FFIVA.
So, about that soloing Alpha Weltall… (plus, you still haven’t given any reason why Brigandier is a better gear than Xenogears, Weltall-2, etc.).
No. Proper equipment are things like Defense Rings, Ribbons, etc. If you want to consider Adamants, Fu So Ya gets a bigger boost than Rosa, since she has already maxed her will and has no use for wisdom outside of calculating magic defense.
Apples and Soma Drops date back to the original FF4.
Put those guys in your party and see how far you get against Alpha Weltall without Bart.
Gradius V Weapon Sets
God Tier: Type 2 (direction option)
High Tier: Type 1 (freeze option)
Mid-Tier: Type 3 (spacing option)
Dan Tier: Type 4 (Rotate option)
Donkus:
Could you explain a “proper” equipment set up then? I feel like I’m missing something terribly important and obvious here (i.e. when you say Fusoya “he sits in the back row with proper equipment, he shouldn’t be taking damage anyway”).
re: Brigandier
> Put those guys in your party and see how far you get against Alpha Weltall without Bart.
I’m sorry, I’m not buying it.
For one, you haven’t explained how Bart gets to solo Weltall. Bart has a special ability and a weapon that makes him indispensible during that particular fight, but these abilities, while certainly good, don’t make Bart’s gears themselves that great in the long term. Certainly not better than Xenogears, Weltall-2, or Crescents. Or even Vierge, with her abillity to kill everything for 400 fuel.
Second, during Alpha Weltall, my damage comes from Billy. Billy gives me 9999 damage per turn, which to my knowledge Bart can’t do, ever (not unless you hacked in a beter engine for him during that fight). Bart takes the bite out of AW’s attacks, but he can’t kill him. Not unless you’re insanely lucky and Bart somehow manages to avoid all of AW’s attacks without dying, which in my experience has never happened, even with Wild Smile, Evasion Rings, and the highest response I can get.
And finally, I fail to see how Bart’s usefulness in one particular fight - even if it’s the hardest fight in the game - makes him the best. That’s not how tiers work. Ukyo is the best character in Samurai Shodown 2, but loses to Nakoruru, who’s the worst character. This doesn’t somehow make Nakoruru stop being the worst character in the game.
Ultima: I don’t like Xenogears and wish I’d never heard of it. I shouldn’t have thrown that bit out about it way in the beginning. I’ve come to dislike it more since that time. If you want to discuss tiers, strategies, etc, I can’t help you.
For Fu So Ya, note that I’m considering only the possibility that you have added him into your party with a hacking device. Pre-lunar Fu So Ya is stuck with crap equipment, like everyone else. They have the stats to make up for this, though, but he does not and depends more on good equipment that you can’t get until you go to the core.
What you want is any wizard equipment you find late in the game. Ribbon or Glass for a helmet, Protect or Crystal for the accessory, and White for the armor. If Cecil is in your party, cover him. If Edge was in your party, you should be able to give him a Mythril shield. Glass is hard to find and is probably unnecessary if Cecil is there to provide cover.
I dont know if it was already mentioned or not, but im not going to view all those pages just to find out…
But can anyone come up with a Tier list for Zone of the Enders 2 (Versus Mode) w/ Default Handicap? Seeing as how almost all the selectable mechs in versus mode hold random handicaps over the others… its kinda hard to tell but I always wanted to know 
isn’t the world record held by a freeze user? that’s what i read on gamefaqs anyways. put the options in an L shape like
O
O X
O O
and use double… you’re pretty much invincible unless you run into something
Type 2 is better for score runs, if only for the cell wall in stage 4. You’ll almost always end up with a higher score per loop, also direction is better for the stage 1 boss.
I’m a freeze user myself (made all my records with it), but have to admit type 2 is slightly better, if you can handle it.
tiers for puzzle fighter
ken
akuma
demetri
worset = dan po dan
Demitri wasnt in u dumbshit
Tier List went something like
Ken, Donovan
Hsien-Ko, Devilot, Akuma
Morrigan, Sakura, Felicia
Ryu, Chun-Li
Dan
oh heavons no I said the wrong tier list for the game. Better flame me:rolleyes:
I was far from flaming u lol
Yea, thats not a flame.