Tiers for non-fighting games?

The trick to Rinoa’s limit break was to learn only Invincible Moon and Wishing Star. The other moves that Rinoa could learn were total ass, so if you learned only those 2 moves, Rinoa would more often use Invincible Moon or Wishing Star, which were the only moves with her dog that were worth a crap. As far as Selphie, there was also the trick you mentioned with opening the Playstation to get “The End” on her limit, but why bother? I’d say the definitive tiers for FF8 were

Top
Zell
Squall
Irvine

Mid
Rinoa (assuming you only used the magazines to learn Invincible Moon and Wishing Star
Selphie (if you cheat with “The End”)

Low
Rinoa (if you don’t cheese the magazines)

Crap
Selphie (if you don’t open the Playstation to get “The End”)
Quistis

Vincent and Barret are god tier they can both 1 hit kill anything in the game



also Barret with ungarmax works best with command counter + mime x8 combo

I’ve heard of the overflow glitch that allowed vincent to do that. I haven’t tried it myself but I heard it’s really tedious and boring to do. Was it something like 5000 kills or something to get that?

Albert is better than Dart due to getting additions way quicker (you can get Flower Storm by the end of Disc 1, or at latest, middle of Disc 2), having better dragoon magic (Rose Storm is a good defensive spell. Gaspless has a huge attack modifier to make up for Albert’s low magic), and the fact that Dart never does strongdamage without the Soul Eater (which locks you into Therapy Ring). Albert’s even with Rose as I see it. Rose has good damage output, but pretty much nil in the way of support and she’s in equipment conflict with Meru (they both want/need that Dragon Helm, and there’s only one set of Dancer Shoes in the game).

Although you can’t control Specials in the Last Man on Earth mutation in Left 4 Dead 2, here are the tiers for that mode.

Uber Tier

  • Hunter - Hunters are broken in LMoE. Apart from one-hit kills, they can do the most damage by spamming cheap slashes if they miss a pounce and their hit-box is glitchy. If they do catch you in a pounce, they’ll hop away and recharge their pounce while your character stands up, being ready to pounce you again before you can move. Its sad that Hunters are only worth a damn in LMoE and against stupid players.

Top Tier

  • Smoker - Slightly less broken in LMoE than Hunters, but only because they can’t stun lock you like Hunters can, plus their base swipe attack does poor damage. They can effectively snipe you though from the tops of buildings.

  • Jockey - They can instant game over you by guiding you off ledges since there is no one to pick you up in LMoE. For some reason, their hitbox seems larger than in a standard campaign though.

Mid Tier

  • Charger - The charge is even easier to dodge since there are no commons to block your path. For some reason, your character insta-stands up if grabbed and KO’ed by a Charger, so you can run away quite easily with a syringe. Plus their charge takes forever to re-charge.

Low Tier

  • Spitter - Since there are no commons in LMoE, you can’t be sandwiched into their spit, making them paper tigers in this mode.

  • Tank - Even shittier than normal (and Tanks are pretty fucking shitty period). Without commons, these guys are pathetically easy to solo. They are really only a threat in the junkyard area of the Parish since there are a lot of cars for them to throw. Its often easy to just outrun these guys. In comparison to L4D1, lo how the mighty hath fallen.

AvP2 Tiers, i played this glitchy mess competitively for 6+ years… don’t ask why. overall it was Human > Pred > Alien, but i decided to split the classes down into tiers… I wont include the exosuit, queen, facehugger or chestburster since they were only usable with the correct settings and were never used in tournaments anyway.

Top Tier
Ichiro- gets the 2 best weapons on the game rail cannon a scoped sniper rifle that will 1-hit kill regardless of hit location, theres an exploit that allows the rail cannon to be rapid fired as fast as you can click your mouse and grenade launcher that can stock multiple types of grenades including stun and homing smart bombs, stupid stupid combination of weapons able to deal with any other class/race in the game with ease.

Dunya- also gets the rail cannon second weapon however is the flame thrower so not as good as Ichiro.

Rykov- gets the grenade launcher, pulse rifle and shotgun. very well rounded can fight at any range grenade launcher is awesome and pulse rifle is able to fire grenades in a straight line and is very good to even without exploiting the stagger glitch.

High tier
Ivan- gets the grenade launcher but his other weapons are poor and have the same role (flamethrower and shotgun).

Light Pred- fastest of the pred classes bat also the least hp, gets the spear gun a poor mans version of the rail cannon and remote bombs, remote bombs can take out almost anything in 1 hit but have limited ammo.

Heavy Pred- huge mammoth of a class gets a truck tone of hp but slow and limited to mostly melee weapons, good thing for the heavy pred he can use the speed hop glitch to make him almost the speed of a runner, netgun is also a nice weapon against humans who aren’t packing splash weapons.

Runner- low hp and low melee damage, only placed so high due to its speed giving it the 1 up against the snipers over the other classes, all that extra HP means nothing if you die in 1 hit anyway, runner also gets the most damaging pounce out of all the aliens and the fastest headbite.

Johnson- gets the pulse rifle and flame thrower, the chances of ever running out of pulse rifle ammo are very low so the shitty second weapon is not to bad

Mid tier
Dimitri- Gets the minigun and shotgun, minigun deals huge damage but you cant run while carrying it so if your not carefully you can end up a sitting duck for snipers preds or aliens.

Assault Pred- HP and speed is somewhere between the heavy and regular pred gets Plasma Pistol, shoulder cannon, netgun and remote bombs, shoulder cannon is a decent weapon when fully charged it can 1-hit kill most things has tracking and splash, very easy to run out of ammo and end up with nothing but wrist blades if your not careful

Predator- Has average speed and hp, gets combistaff, disc, plasma pistol and netgun. due to its lower health it cant go toe to toe with aliens in melee like the heavy pred can, netgun is great vs humans but will do little to aliens while the plasma pistol will pretty much shut aliens down while doing nothing to humans, the disc is a scrub killer but is useless against higher level skilled players.

Harrison- Gets the smartgun, another scrub killer has full auto aim but very weak and you cant run with it, can also be problematic for aliens in open maps especially the runner, secondary weapon is the shotgun.

Drone- Average speed, HP, Melee damage weakest pounce in the game, can soak up a bit more pulse rifle or smartgun fire than the runner without sacrificing too much speed still probably best to just stay away from snipers.

Low tier
Jones- poor old jonesy not only dose his weapon layout suck sadar and shotgun but he has a slightly bigger than normal hitbox for a human. sadar is your typical rawcket lawnchair, the rockets come out slow however and don’t really speed up till half way across the map, if your close enough to actually hit something with this then you will probably die in the splash, second fire shoots homing rockets but it takes far to long to lock on to be any use other than occasionally killing some scrub pred who thinks he can get away with camping while cloaked.

Predalien- very slow and not enough hp to compensate, very powerful melee and a good damage pounce but most of the time its a struggle getting in, has no headbite so its hard to recover hp and has a much larger head hitbox than the other aliens.

Shit tier
Praetorian- most HP of all the alien classes high melee damage and runs about the same speed as the drone, has no wall walk or pounce combined with its massive hitbox it has problems getting round the map and cant keep up with the other aliens and since it cant pounce or wall walk it gets killed easy pretty much just a giant sitting duck

I’m confused, what’s the difference from a beat em up and a fighting game?

Blue Yoshi no God Tier? Flight is always the most broken abaility in Mario games, hands down.

And Vincent can one shot any enemy in the game with the Death Penalty if you grind enough.

If I’m not mistaken, Beat 'Em Ups are side-scrollers that emphasize on brawling through waves of antagonists rather than battling a single opponent of similar skill. Think Streets of Rage, Double Dragon and Battletoads.

Um. Zam is still broken ingame in FRLG. Dark moves aren’t much of a worry because they are special attacks, about 0 things use Ghost moves aside from aside Gastly/Haunters using Lick (and you’re going to one shot every Gastly/Haunter/Gengar and outspeeed them so it doesn’t really matter too much). Nothing really uses Bug moves still. Only things taking a Psychic well are Magneton and fellow Psychic types.

Any pokemon is virtually broken ingame, but this is not R/B where Alakazam was solely made stupid broken. What I mean is that its special STAT acted the same way as its special defense. So not only was he special tank, he was also a special sweeper all in one pokemon. In comparison to Alakazam R/B/G, FRLG Alakazam isn’t touching him.

But if that’s the case, then why not do the same to Gyarados you are probably thinking? Gyarados despite the special split still maintained his versatility . Not only did he gain EQ, but DD as well. He continues to get better seemingly every passing generation, I don’t think you can say the same for Alakazam. DD ingame Gyarados is just as broken, if not more broken than regular Psychic Zam w/Elemental Punch. If not at a high enough level, Alakazam is NOT running through Elite 4 Part 2. Gyarados can with enough DD, even at medicore leveling.

Warcraft 3 Heros tier list:

A+: Blademaster, Demon Hunter, Mountain King, Death Knight, Warden, Archmage
A: Shadow Hunter, Tauren Cheiftain, Pandaren Brewmaster, Lich, Beastmaster
B+: Paladin, Blood Mage, Naga Sea Witch, Dark Ranger
C: Priestess of the Moon, Far Seer, Dreadlord, Crypt Lord, Goblin Tinker
C-: Goblin Alchemist, Pit Lord, Firelord, Keeper of the Grove

Dart pretty much jumps to A tier at the end game thanks to Divine Dragoon, but other then that yeah he’s C tier. Albert is tied with Rose. Those two are pretty much the best until Meru and Haschel get all their additions and max out their dragoon abilitities.

Any Bof game ever made and ever will be made. Ryu = God. He turns into dragons and doesn’t afraid of anything.

My custom robo tier list went like this.

Top

Strike Vanisher

High

Lightning Sky
Aerial Beauty
Shining Fighter

Mid

Trick Flyer

Low

Little Raider
Funky Big Head

Bottom

Metal Grappler

Chrono Trigger

Top
Crono
Magus
Frog

Bottom
Everyone else

Mario Party tier list

Top:

Mario
Wario
Donkey Kong

Mid:
Yoshi
Luigi

Cheating bitch tier:

Peach

Top is Crono, Ayla, and Robo. Always has been. Always will be.

For anyone who else that thinks this the match-ups go like this;
Rock vs Paper 0-10
Paper vs Scissors 0-10
Scissors vs Rock 0-10

always liked Frog on my team. he was basically a second Crono (granted, his techs besides FrogSquash and heals are ass) like Glenn was to Serge/Lynx in Chrono Cross. Magus is just too damn cool and he’s the only one in the game with access to all elements and the shadow element. he’s like CT’s magneto lol

Who cares? The game is about killing shit. No one does this better then the top three I listed and you will find no one that disagrees that has broken the game down.

Theres a difference between “favorite team” and “most powerful team”.