If anything 2 vs. 2 should be a side-attraction… This decision really seems pre-mature. The game has only had 1 major and we’re jumping to the conclusion that it’s nothing more than a 2 vs 2 game? Cause that what brings in the “hype”? Come on now.
Don’t get me wrong, I think 2 vs. 2 is an awesome concept in this game…but as the main attraction? No. There is no way 2v2 should be a replacement to 1v1. 2v2 is purely for fun and messing around IMO. 1v1 is what should be taken seriously…especially at EVO… I really don’t get this decision. If anything this will encourage players to NOT enter the tournament, thus having low numbers. Is that really what we want to happen? Unless we’re actually trying to kill of this game on purpose, I see no reason to make this decision SO early in the game’s tourney life.
Hopefully this doesn’t become the standard… really hope EVO reconsiders this. Maybe there’s room for 1v1 AND 2v2… but 2v2 shouldn’t outright replace 1v1…sighhh.
That’s exactly my thoughts on it but I do have to wonder about something people are overlooking.
SFXT is getting massive bad rep right now and NCR was a terrible showing for it. Maybe this 2 vs 2 format might get it some hype again so that i can be given the chance to develop. At the rate SFXT is going at now its hype would be over by the time evo is finished…so maybe this gimmick will give it the time it needs.
I think its a weird move that automatically alienates a shit ton of people.
Its likely that everyone who plays and practices 2v2 also enjoys and practices 1v1, but not necessarily the other way around.
I think these decisions are more so in the interest of time. It sucks for some people, especially since it’s 2v2, but SFxT matches can last an ungodly long time especially since time outs are hardly uncommon. EVO this year is running 6 major showings, KOFXIII among them, which is also a really time consuming game. I can definitely see why 2v2 is forced and gems are cut, and I’ll gladly deal with a gimped SFxT competitive showing in exchange for a proper KOFXIII showing.
Keep in mind guys we’re discussing whether 1v1 should be taken seriously over 2v2. This is the same game that has day 1 50% combos and time outs still manage to be a popular way to finish a match… Don’t even get me started on gems and console exclusive characters. If you are going to put a party game in your tournament you might as well make it hype for others too. I for one wasn’t going to give this game the time of day until I heard it was going to be 2v2. My team name is going to be “timeout don’t pout”.
You surely have a point, but i don’t know…i’ve always thought of EVO as the world fighting games championship and i would really like to see the best player win the tournament, not the hypest
If you wanted a new competitive fighter that relies entirely on your own decisions and skill to get wins…perhaps you should look into KOF13 instead?
But seriously, this decision is a pretty big gamble. If I make it to Evo, I’ll be there with friends and won’t have any trouble finding a team mate that I’ve practiced with before, so this doesn’t really affect me much. I can sympathise with others’ complaints here though…what happens if you are the only one of your friend that really like SFxT? Or what if you go with an odd number of SFxT-playing friends? You can no longer enter the tournament.
The thing is, the Evo organizers are not stupid. They obviously realize the implications of deciding on 2v2. So we have to accept that this may be the outcome they are looking for. They KNOW this will discourage a lot of entrants. The question is, are they doing this to save a huge amount of time (half as many matches AND less players), or for some other reason?
Edit: It seems that they are just looking to save time. That is unfortunate, but as organizers I trust them to know how to schedule things best at their own tournaments. The consequence of this though, is that now every other tournament is forced to consider running 2v2 events instead of 1v1 just to line up with EVO, even though those other tournaments may not have the same time constraints.
I thought the whole appeal of fighting games was the whole man to man concept. Where if you lost you only have yourself to blame. I don’t know if they plan on announcing 1V1 as well but if they don’t this could be bad for the game. Everyone seems to look at EVO for what will become the standard. If this is the case major’s may follow suit with this idea followed by ranbats and locals leaving everyone that don’t like this format with their thumbs stuck up their ass.
This layout is fucking stupid. They shouldn’t ban gems before the tourney patch and 2v2 should be OPTIONAL, not fucking mandatory. Players shouldn’t be screwed over because they don’t have a partner. I’d honestly rather the game be taken out and replaced with another game than have this layout.
If Marvel only has enough time to be 2/3 when the whole match takes about as much time as one round in SFXT than I feel it’s unfair that SFXT gets 2/3 in 1v1 so 2v2 is a good compromise to compensate for time
I like this idea. It adds a new dynamic to the typical tournament structure. I mean we have so many titles that are exclusively one on one and that’s a fine structure. However, with this decision, it would not only require players to develop character specific tactics and team synergy, but also “actual” team synergy. It’s a refreshing novelty that I predict will be really fun to watch. Has this done with TTT or any other tag before this?
Also, It sucks for players who have no player locally to team/train up with and the idea of finding a partner at Evo is a really bad. This isn’t random street ball. You need to practice match ups and synergy extensively to compete on the world stage. Players are going to NEED to find a local partner to practice with. It also helps to alleviate learning 2 characters. You can just focus on the on character youir great with and your partner can do the same. Of course that leads to its own set of problems when trying to create an efficient team…
This is kind of what disturbs me the most right now. The game had folks figuring out massive damage combos on day 1 and yet the game is being played to full time-outs quite a bit. Most of these big combos, at least for the Tekken side, are easy to land as long as you fish for the hit confirm or bounce yet everyone was using switch cancel combos for much less at NCR. The game is so much faster using these combos.
Most people’s complaints were that it was not “hype”. I personally had no problem with SFxT at NCR and enjoyed the top 8. I enjoyed the top 8 of AE and UMvC3 aswell.
I agree with the first part of the post. But the second part… I don’t get why people are so extremely concerned with not finding a partner. I assumed people would post in a “looking for Evo partner thread” (which there was one made in the Evo section). I assumed posts would look something like; “My name is john doe, my gamertag is johnjohndoedoe, my bp in sfxtekken at the moment is xyz and I main king and ryu. I take fighting games very seriously(my pp/bp in sfae is very high), I enter tournaments in my area consistently, and I’m looking for a teammate who’s in the same skill range. To show that I’m already committed to going to Evo, I’ll show proof of my… (airplane tickets, hotel reservations, proof of having signed up for other Evo games already, whatever works).” Then you can play the person in game to make sure you feel he/she would be a good partner, and there you go, you’ve got a partner. The game allows you to play online 2v2, and there’s even an online training mode, so training with your partner shouldn’t be an issue.
I’m honestly surprised at some of the reactions here. Someone posted above something along the lines of “you might not even get a chance to play.”. Really? In 2 matches, you’re concerned you won’t get a chance to play once? What the hell kind of unreliable partner have you chosen for yourself that this would happen? If you need to find a partner for this, you should absolutely find him/her online and get to know that person, and not wait til Evo to do it.
Some people are saying fighting games are about 1v1. Not sure I agree. Most of the time it is 1v1 because that’s simply how the games are made. Fighting games are about competition, whether it be in the form of 1v1, 2v2, 2v2 sbo style (I forgot what they call it), 3v3 sbo style (pokemon some people call it? I don’t even know). I just thought there would be a lot more excitement about this. Something very unique that most fighting games don’t offer.
Neither, 2v2 means less matches not less players or faster matches… I’m saying that if 400+ people entered SFXT evo than it would take forever for them to do 2/3 matches at 1v1.
A typical marvel match takes about 1/3 of the time as a single SFXT match
