Play to win has less to do with tier placings and how you fight.
I can pick sentinel and try to rush you down with fancy fly/unfly/refly combos but why waste my time doing that when laser flyxxunfly laser and drones+commando will work?
Basically, do whatever is necessary to beat the opponent.
So annoying is people that pick top possible tiers and try to skim by on that and nothing else.
Of course the answer (before anyone else says it) is to just beat them, but the mindset is still offputting.
Yes?
The word you’re looking for isn’t community, it’s fandom
You’re a fan, not a member of the community
-People who complain about players doing the same combo over and over again.
If I can do lots of damage with a simple Day 1 Sentinel BnB in UMvC3, why should I bother learning more complicated combos, especially if a game has an unstable netcode? Just to show off? It’s one thing if a hard combo is more damaging, but why should I refrain from doing a simple combo that’s EFFECTIVE and I want to win a match as quickly as possible?!
-People who think it’s a bad thing to “play to win”.
If I’m worse than a good player, why should I get an easy win? It’s very satisfying to beat players who understand the game better than I do. If I was playing football and I whined about the other players not letting me score a goal then I would be considered an annoying weakling. I hate sore losers.
I agree with this. The only reason I bought SSFIV was because of Cammy, and now my friends call me a scrub for using my favorite character =’(
It’s the problem that people don’t really get this whole ‘game’ thing.
If your only goal is to win and you can’t have fun without winning the maximum number of times, then you’re a dummy for not playing a top.
If you enjoy a particular characters playstyle and don’t mind (or even enjoy the challenge of) struggling some, you’d be a dummy to have less fun just to win.
Which leads to another thing that really annoys me. People trying to enforce an orthodoxy.
Both people who say playing low-tier MvC2 is sucky and scrubby *and* people who say people who only play god-tier teams are losers who are afraid of losing (or whatever the anti-top tier argument is, you don't hear it much anymore), they're all doing the same thing and that same thing is** annoying as fuck**.Wow Xes with that top-tier false dichotomy.
I’m not sure how ‘its annoying when people tell others how they have to enjoy the game, regardless of which side they’re coming from’ is a false dichotomy at all.
In fact it’s not a dichotomy at all, more “this obnoxious behavior transcends things like ‘sides’”
when I first started fighters, I am beyond competitive, I kinda gave up on myself because I was bad. I think that is a horrible philosophy, it is okay to be competitive but to a certain point, it is ridiculous.
you should never give up
unless you want to…
you are missing my point; the philosophy of winning is everything is a terrible one for beginners, play to learn, play to have fun, enjoy it, etc. is a more suiting one
how about just don’t be that bad in comparison to who you play…
I’m not sure how this thread became so terrible, but it definitely has.
sigh You are that one person that no one likes in school/work
Good to know I share the same feelings.
besides that coming from no where, I actually ain’t that guy I’m the annoying twat that has friends but no one knows why…
'cuz hate doesn’t actually make us strong 
It’s making my dick harder tbh
people who just keep pressing buttons, and the jump happy players
people who guess parry on wakeup
-Guile/Iceman/tronne players: it’s 2012, don’t be mad when you lose cause you picked shitty-ass characters. Also, up-back icebeam with iceman doesn’t work. stop wasting my time and yours, cause we both know you’ll just quit after the second “FINISSSHHHH”