The Ultra Inevitable Street Fighter V Story Thread

Wasn’t the whole thing about Gen and Gouken being zombies just Vasili being unwilling to accept that SFIV soft-retconned Gouken and Gen back to life after that they were seemingly implied to have died in the Alpha series?

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She needs to have her lipstick and make up taken off. That bitch doesnt need it.

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Yup. Vasili had a difficult time with retcons in general.

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So, I’m reading on r/Kappa that Capcom allegedly sold one of their IPs for 19 million dollars, but they aren’t saying which IP it was. Apparently the information about the unspecified sale should be somewhere in this link (all in Japanese): http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/data/explanation.html?utm_source=capcom_top&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=referer

19 millions isn’t a particularly big number, so people think it has to be some small to mid-sized old franchise. Any ideas?

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@Phantom_Miria I used Google translate and the English is actually coherent instead of some jumbled shit like usual. It’s a fiscal report. Apparently things are looking up for Capcom financially with some of their games (MHW and RE2) selling far better than expected. They also stated that E-Sports 2019 haven’t given them as much money as in previous years. Nothing about SFV though, though if the E-Sports statement is any indication it’s that SFV isn’t doing really well which explains Capcom branching out in new directions.

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This probably comes down to their poor update schedule and communications for the year.

By contrast, Valve’s DotA is constantly engaging players throughout its season. Even though the playerbase is exponentially bigger than SF5’s, the business model is close and Capcom should be taking notes from it.

GG team making Darkstalkers with Xrd graphics? A pipe dream, but one I can get behind

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I will love to do something like that, but seem LOT of work if we count check all sources/inspirations for design

Could be cool even just a big downloadable file divided in characters

A soft beginning if @Midgardsorm is interessed could be cover just the moves part as start

The design/traits inspirations on other hand seem something HUGE

I never said that there is an universal source for SF characters. The “1:1 rip off” is mostly reserved for background characters or those that were never expanded upon afterwards… and that is Joe’s case. Joe was Urquidez and none else. At the time of SF, the Japanese general public knew Urquidez from his televised matches fought in Japan and his role in a manga from an acclaimed author. Lewis was virtually unknown. If there ever was an influence of Lewis, it was on Ken and well after the first SF; certainly not on Joe, though. SF characters evolved over time and acquired new inspirations as time passed; but Joe never had that opportunity. The problem with Western fans is that they tend to think that all the world knew back then what they know now, with the net and all the means to investigate that everyone nowadays has at hand… But you have to put yourself in the shoes of a Japanese of the Eighties for SF and SF2. Then the Nineties for Super, Zero, EX and III, and so on. If you search for inspirations for Ken in Japanese sites, no one ever mentions Lewis. Everyone does so about Urquidez, however.
Then there is the almost insurmountable obstacle of replacing the past bad translations and/or fabrications, but that’s fighting against windmills. I could re-translate all Ingrid story modes I want, but there would always be someone who thinks she’s a Sun Goddess who accused Bison of having stolen her Psycho Power… And between this and RL issues, I’m frankly losing my zest. There’s just too much to do.
Anyway, if @Lord_Vega or @Doctrine_Dark want to take a look to All about Capcom Fighting Games 1987~2000, maybe there’s something about Lucia.

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I considered the possibility it might had originated in a magazine, but did Final Fight Tough ever received much in the way of press coverage? It seems CAP! didn’t start publication until a year after the game was already out on the Super Famicom and the game doesn’t seem to had been all that popular back in the day to warrant prolonged coverage. Unless they did a special feature on past Capcom heroines or something like that, it seems unlikely they would reveal such information on a random magazine article.

I own All About Capcom myself and there’s nothing on Lucia there. The book only covers versus fighting games, not belt-scrollers and thus it only covers Final Fight characters who were in the Street Fighter games and Final Fight Revenge.

I’ve seen people on Japanese sites claim that Ken’s name and design was inspired by Ken Asuka (飛鳥 拳), the protagonist from the anime adaptation of Karate Baka Ichidai (a series I’m not too familiar with). It makes sense when you consider Ken wasn’t originally characterized as an American until SF2CE or Super. He was originally written as a Japanese in SF1 and even in SF2WW, where his name was spelled with the same kanji character.

They used the term ansatsuken not only on the SFZ2 instruction card, but it even appeared on the flyer for SF1 on Gen’s character bio (which was way before they introduced Gouki and gave an origin story to Ryu and Ken’s style).


sf1_chirashi_gen

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I always knew her as Lucia Morgan, and didn’t know there was any controversy as to the source of her last name.

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Great find on this and definitely good luck on finding anything about the origin of her surname. The oldest available version of the old SF plot guide even lists her surname as Morgan. Ryoredcyclone claims it could be Capcom pulling their own info from the web instead of their own source material. Wouldn’t be surprised if this is another case of Capcom claiming fan contributions as one of their own.

Just going by the whole Poison Molotov thing I posted back in January and it just now showing up in game makes think someone in Capcom is pulling ideas from the web and trying to push them through to devs to portray.

SGS is another great example, and that’s sort of like an opposite scenario of this. Where Capcom had to actually implement the visualized cinematic SGS in SFV instead of the black screen with flashes because for the longest time every casual fan thought the attack had to do with demons and hell.

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They did during the Summer 1998 issue. It was a poll on Capcom girls in general with a huge list. The top 10 would get made into a special edition card pack. Since the website the scan was on is gone, I’m not sure if Lucia was referred to as her full name.

I can see It, that visual style also fit Ryu/Ken portraits in SF1

I guess Capcom itself changing mind on canon events from game to game does’nt help either :smiley:

How It started the sun goddess thing? Iirc you said true version is her hinted to be a time traveler

You had chance to read about cancelled CFAS where Ingrid was one of the 3 heroes?

New charactersEdit

  • D.D. - “God of Thunder”
  • Rook - “Fallen Angel”
  • Ingrid - “Eternal Goddess”
  • Avel - “Death”

StoryEdit

Death was running around Metro City with a bomb called Laughter Sun. Mike Haggar called all above mentioned fighters to beat Death and defuse the bomb. To disarm it, codes were needed to be input. D.D., Rook, and Ingrid were the Code Holders, they had the codes that would deactivate the bomb. D.D. was the leader, Ingrid & Rook were his teammates. Their codes were Ogre, Fallen Angel and Isis.

Here Capcom play again on goddess thing, but of course it’s just code names… DD and Rook were not literally God of thunder and a fallen Angel lol

Speaking of CFAS this could be the perfect moment to steal from there Avel/Death as SFV metro city villains (After Abigail/Poison) leader… Cody Is still without a direct rival if G is’nt
immagine

So who is this G. Lemon guy?

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I doubt SFtAM gave much fucks and just made him up

Btw i find logical Guile got an instructor before Nash, i ever thought Guile was already a very very good fighter when he meet Nash, with Nash being a straight martial arts genius.

Guile seen Nash as superior fighter and as the pratical soldier he is embraced his friend’s style to improve his own efficency (and adapted it to himself)

My fav detail ever been the difference between theyr idle stances, it show so different mindset despite similar fighting style

Even when Chun is analyzed by a robot her weight is still unknown.

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Do it!

Regarding inspirations, specifically for Ken…

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Joe Lewis, yo.

One of the all time great fighters.

Big respect for the mention of Benny the Jet too! My god, that man is amazing! It’s such a shame so many of his fights were either filmed on garbage quality or not at all. What a loss

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I was thinking something like


RYU

Hadouken - Kamehameha (Dragon Ball)
(timestamped)

Shoryuken - Igotonlyitaliannamelol (Hokuto no Ken)
(go to 1:08)

Shoryuken (another possible) - Rozan Sho Ryu Ha (Saint Seiya)

Tatsumaki sempukyaku - Hokuto HyakofouZan (Hokuto no Ken)
(timestamped)

Jodan Sokutou Geri - ??? (i got this fun Kenshiro episode, but i’m sure i’ve seen much closer stuff)

Others (supers, normal attacks etc)


But thing is i got zero knowledge about japanese language, so it will be very limited/simple and likely wrong lol

Also are just possible inspiration, rarely we can be 100% sure
In Ryu case are a bit safer bet (like hadouken), but in many other cases it’s about try to make a guess

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