counter morrigan? Mags is a great choice
Edit-gonna try to reproduce what I did before to stop all that nonsense
MB doesn’t help against Morrigan at all. She can just hover out of its range (across or above Magneto) and pluck him from the sky. Thats the advantage Morrigan has over both other zoners and rushdown characters. She can cover two directions at the same time no matter if she is in the air or on the ground, while most other characters can only cover one at once
i don’t know about that Settai. A good mag blast would stop her in her tracks
Uhhh… how exactly? Ok, Magnetic Blast loses, I believe, in durability to Soul Fists (those things eat everything). Morrigan has multi-angled Soul Fists and can send two in quick succession. And you can’t just stay up in there because you’ll either eat Vajra or Missiles (two of the assists that cover her weakest angle)
Basically she calls DOOM, sends a Diagonal to cover magnetic blast, a horizontal to cover any landing space you could have and then you have missiles falling on your bucket.
Mag blast ain’t got shit on Morrigan. The best tool magneto has vs it is Shockwave xx Fullscreen DHC. I didn’t get to experiment today, but I’m willing to bet that off of a good Shockwave I can DHC into Hailstorm, XF and kill. Either that or THC.
Fullscreen
TK Heavy Disruptor can beat Morrigan, Doom assist, and one soul fist. <-- that means if Morrigan does Soul fist, fly cancel, Doom missles, Soul fist…one TK heavy Disrupter can beat all that shit except for the air soul fist.
The fly cancel soul fist isn’t low enough to hit grounded magneto.
MBlast is ass vs MorriDoom
Super Jumping is ASS!!!
Soul fist trades with L/M Disrupter<-- don’t use them too much
Disrupter, Tittie Squeeze FTW!
Soul Fist Trap
When you get trapped, Force Field cancel into Shockwave/GavSqueeze works fine.
If Morrigan gets reset in the air(superjump height) look out for hidden missles. with the right assist and smart decisions, Magneto can beat MorriDoom with no problems. Stay on the ground(fullscreen) and punish Soulfist with TK Heavy Disrupter. When you find an opening, rush that bitch down. Killing/punishing Doom should be your main objective.
Okay, so what if you did double mag blast into flight? Didn’t think of that did you? 
EDIT: Just saw Ika’s post and I can’t believe I’ve been doing these things without noticing it. I really need to stop playing when I’m high (at least not when i’m not recording ranked matches)
EDDIT: I’m playing Nova/Spencer/Magneto. This team is just too good it hurts
mag Blast ain’t got shit on morrigan no matter where you go. All it’ll do is make you eat Missiles or Vajra into the ground.
Anyway, RAYRAY FANATIQ IS HAPPENING @ ECT. WE HAVE 2k TOTAL NOW.
Shit is happeniiiiiiing.
13:00ish for the Fanatiq vs RayRay conversation. My heart tells me to back RayRay on this.
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Yooooooo, my face :wow: shit is hype!!
hahaha, I like this salty-hype thing.
I love me my beyonzo but listening to this makes me wanna se what he would say If he lost, you know? Kind of a sick bastard thing, lol.
Sounds staged for shit and giggles though, hahahaha
Fanatiq Is so damn funny.
M. Blasts trade with Soul Fists in durabilty, they are both 5 points each and have enough forward momentum to get in on her quickly with a box dash. And I never said to use Magnetic Blasts solo with magnus, I said use them in conjunction with a fast Horizontal assist like Task Arrows(what I use) or Hawkeye Arrows/ Iron Man unibeam who pack enough durability for themselves. Obviously that shit loses to her in Astral Vision, the only thing you can do in astral Vision is pushblock and stay in your place.
When She calls doom, it’s a free H Disruptor, that will eat fireballs and hit doom.
I think this matchup is even. Not everyone has access to storm for that 1f DHC too, so vs most DHCs or supers Morrigan can unfly and block safely. Or even level 3 if she’s in the air or level 1 if she’s grounded.
Edit: I just went to the lab to confirm as I’ve played this mu a few days earlier and I dont remember exactly. Yes Magnetic Blasts and Soulfists cancel each other out, so you get a free way with momentum in, with my assist taskmaster arrows I put 14 points of durability on screen, so if she does Soul Fist Fly Cancel Soul Fist, my box dash Magnetic Blast cancels a soulfist, 2 arrows will cancel out the ground fireball, and she’ll be forced to block the last arrow. And I get a free mixup off that.
Now if she calls her favorite assists, what are your options vs them? If she calls Doom its a free H disruptor(12 durability points), it’ll eat the grounded fireball and tag Dr Doom. If she uses akuma use normal jump blasts instead of boxdash blasts to tag akuma’s head and beat him out( I developed this tech in vanilla against Akuma/Wolverine bullshit), vs Sent I can call task assist + H disruptor and theyll eat up the fireball + hit sentinel. You can also obviously do this with Hawkeye Assist/Akuma/Unibeam/Plasma Beam if you are in range etc etc. Obviously none of this stuff flies when she’s in Astral Vision, you just have to pushblock and super jump fly vs that, maybe super jump fly double magnetic blast?
Vs Strider here’s some tech you can do. Strider assist is a free counter into shockwave, 660k fucking damage with no DHC, that ninja will be bleeding, did you know that counters will eat up all projectiles too so it doesnt matter what shit strider has on screen (Once again vanilla anti akuma tech), and if she calls strider right as you do boxdash blasts you can recover and punish the assist in time!
Magneto definitely has more tools than most of the cast when dealing with her, and if you have the proper assists you can beat her out in firepower before Astral Vision. The new team I’m working on Mags/Task/Dante, if jam session is out which eats all the fireballs you can use attraction to get a free mixup on block or hit confirm on hit.
I highly disagree with Ika Kun on using Gravity Squeeze, that stuff wont fly vs Morrigan, she can unlfy if she is in flight and super if she is on the ground and level 3 when she is in the air. Shockwave also sucks as it wont even touch Dr Doom, once again the exception is if you are running Gimlet/SoV/HailStorm as a DHC then shockwave is pretty viable as you can DHC instantly but you have to still watch out for her supers.
RayRay was hella humble the entire negotiation. Gotta back the nice guy on this.
Whatever happens, we Magneto players benefit the most since we know both these two are gonna be training it hard for the next 6 weeks until ECT.
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ENJOY!
Lol, I never said you could punish with Shockwave and Tittie Squeeze(maybe up close and timed right). I was just saying the only way to escape Soul Fist midscreen trap is to force field hyper cancel, it’s the only option. I don’t know about you but I’m not gonna sit there and take chip from that bitch. Also, I’ve been wondering…why doesn’t RayRay use Magneto on point vs Chris G? Does anyone know why? Does Ryu have better Anti-MorriDoom tech than Magneto?
It appears that RayRay goes with the team loyalty sort of thing, having that specific order. I remember him trying Sentinel on point with Ryu and Magnus backing him up but it was no good.
Ok sooo unfortunately i really dont have any recording equipment :’( But I will try to describe what im talking about to the best of my ability.
This only works when Morrigan is in astral vision so remember that, anyways…
So In this matchup its actually going to be better to stay on the ground for a few reasons, mainly like people have said here H disruptor will beat out the fireball and hit doom as well. But really the main reason why you want to stay on the ground is for Shockwave. Why? Because of Astral vision. Neat thing about it is you can use Morrigans AV to her disadvantage, In closer ranges you can punish morrigan with Attraction x Shockwave, but it is pretty hard to do, also you can only attempt to punish her from Firebly>Fly not while shes already in Fly…This is important so remember it. Anyway heres the cool thing about AV, if youre that close and it doesnt punish OR if youre midscreenish away and shockwave doesnt punish, the fireball coming from behind will actually hit you and cancel the recovery of Shockwave. What this means is you have a way to approach morrigan and if doom is called he will still get tagged AND Shockwave clears all the missiles. You can even call assists while Morrigan is blocking shockwave and go for mixups. Nice huh? the closer you are to morrigan the better this works because the fireball behind will hit you faster (since her mirror clone is closer, its almost always going to be better to do Attraction x Shockwave) thus allowing you to recover faster and go in, in midscreen it’ll let you dash up and follow the shockwave and do more to damage to doom. So its like XFC Shockwave, without using x-factor…You do take some damage though but payoff is worth it IMO. Imma do some testing with Trades off of H disruptor but Shockwave is gonna be your best bet, hope this helps you guys out
Good to know ^
That Attraction blockstun cancel tech has really sold me on Magneto. This character is too sick.
Yo Fanatiq fucking feeling himself for real lol
I see what you mean by going for the trade Sent HSF style, but I think it’s too risky, and I think what Ika said is much better, Force Field(which eats fireballs) into Shockwave is probably better and a safer way of going at it instead of using attraction where you risk getting tagged by fireballs both during attraction and during those vulnerable frames of shockwave (last 4f before flash Magnus is vulnerable) . But it’s a cool idea to remind us that Astral Vision clone Fireballs work to the favor of Magnus shockwave in this mu. Smart find. Just noone should expect to punish Morrigan, the only hole she has is fireball xx fly while she is activating flight mode itself(15f window), everything else is safe ( unfly, cancel into invulnerable supers).
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Hopefully he will accept!!