Well technically you can armour cancel Ex-Run into Ex Bushin Flip. I’m not sure its worth the trouble to master the execution for this though.
okay so regarding what ive posted:
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it will get you out of Bisons EX PC for free. neither character can followup though
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it , and mk tatsu, will get you out of vipers burn kicks and you can connect the grab if she is mashing any kind of standing normal. if she OS’s a DP, she will whiff it and you will whiff the grab, both characters recover at the same time.
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it will get out out of all of abels TT’s (including EX) and you can followup with a guaranteed bushin throw afterwards
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it will get you out of all of hawks spd’s, including EX, and gives you a guaranteed bushin throw
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it, along with mk tatsu, will get you out of ryus cr.mk xx hado (spacing dependant. if they are really meaty, its a legit blockstrings and you cant get out of it. luckily most ryus do this at max range for their footsie game. meaning we can beat it.)
ryu can do a DP as soon as possible, and he’ll hit you with it, but it has to be a psychic dp. if he delays it AT ALL, you will grab him out of it. (reaction times will almost guarantee a free bushin throw unless youve conditioned them to see it, which would be bad. )
EX Bushin will go through all of giefs SPDs, and give you a free bushin throw follow up (again, can be done vs his U1, but timiing is really tight. )
all of this was tested with miikey boy, so i have a witness to it.
i was right about everything, except viper being able to be thrown. either way, its still good to know that mk tatsu will get you our for free, and EX Bushin will get you out + free grab if they do any standing normal.
Its incredibly useful against Tick throws from Grapplers. Its a useful escape against Gief’s cross up knee drop. They almost always go for SPD after it.
^^i don’t think i’ve ever NOT seen some one go for it after the crossup knee.
i forgot to post this earlier, but it also beats seths spd and you get a free throw on him. too beast.
oh crap now i feel like a douche because I thought it was common knowledge ex bushin had projectile and throw invincibility and kept it to myself.
but it always loses to every other normal so not as good as chun’s hazanshu
I normally use dash ex bushin in tense situations or fadc ex bushin. never outside of that because of the other drawbacks.
back on topic, use it agaisnt honda hands fadc ochio
Edit: the way i phrased it makes me feel like a bigger douche.
EX Bushin Flip is indeed amazing. Thanks for the tip, Guys.
In that situation, wouldn’t jumping straight up net you more damage for no meter? I can see this being useful if it beats normal throw attempts, but otherwise, not so much. Maybe if he does nothing then tries to lariat (which is throwable).
Thanks for reminding me that Viper’s flame kick is a projectile though, I forgot that I can just mk hurricane to anti-air it.
Just to clarify, the ex bushin has 0 strike invincibility right?
for christ’s sake can we PLEASE get some more info on Guy v Honda? It took me 15 tries to get lucky against a hardest computer. You can’t punish any of his shit, just predict and deny.
well theres your first problem. dont play vs hardest lvl computer. everyone knows that they can react in an inhuman manner. they dont do BnB’s. they dont play how the character should be played usually and they can react on a frame by frame basis.
See the problem is if you were to regularly jump, you would get hit with the his knees, and then either combo, reset, or SPD, if you block, block string or SPD most cases SPD, and I’m positive EX tatsu wont work as i believe its a safe jump unless he jumps late or I’m wrong on this, SO to break this chain, Armour Cancel EX Bushin flip to Absorb the hit, if he went for SPD you’ll grab him as he won’t recover in time to avoid and unless he psychic the lariat (NOT entirely sure) Guy will get hit , and he doesnt react fast enough you’ll grab him out of Lariat, There is always the option to U2 to defeat the safe jump attempt.
Well I have gotten out of cross ups but that wasn’t what I was implying. I was implying that it will mess with your opponents directions when done right. It’s kind of hard to explain, but your opponent can’t move in the dirction they choose. I guess I’d have to upload a video to show you all what I mean.
Yeah I didn’t see the part about armor cancelling, I thought you meant straight up ex bushin flip which would get stuffed or simply blocking the knees and then doing bushin flip.
my bad
The input for ex run into ex bushin flip is really easy on pad, just do the ex run then hit 3p straight away. since it’s just LT/L2 it’s not very hard.
I guess it must be hard on a stick though.
I think there will be some realliy interesting uses for it once it’s been experimented with more.
It’s easy on stick… just 2k, 2p, the hardest thing to ever do is Armour Cancel U2,
Okay I have a question, when fighting zanghief and he does a jumpin down lock kick is there a way to escape the lariot throw after blocking or being hit by it? for the life of me i cant escape it, even when i focus dash i get ex green handed and it just happens again
the lariat throw ? what ?
if you mean being SPD’ed after his jumpin, you can use EX Bushin flip. his grab will miss and you get to land a free 200 dmg
Armour Cancel EX Bushin Flip will get you out of there, :qcf: :2k: ~ :2p: learn it
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^^ that too >> <<
Whoaaaa wtf was that lmao ive never seen that before ahahaah, that would work perfectly lmao,