The Street Calibur 5 Lounge: The Soul Burns But not as Hard as the FGC is Burning

Yeah thats pretty fitting.

If he wants I can go in depth with all the stuff in our country. Especially the turks thing.
But I might write for some hours on that.

I actually don’t follow football very much so I’m not the best source, but: he’s Italian, most people who are not idiots consider him a normal Italian, that didn’t stop some shitheads from throwing racial insults at him during football games in the past but that’s because there’s a group of football fans that are just fucking animals, and you should expect the worse from them.

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I used to be a bouncer at a friends bar for some years, usually only on the weekends.

Now whenever there was a football match going on and it was watched, I wasn’t sure if these are the same people who were considerd regulars every other day.
Not sure if it was the drinks I mixed or if they really made full 180° personality changes because of Football games.

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Every country has this kind of idiots.
In my country they double as gang members that if it was for me, i would burn alive, and i am fucking serious.
Those parasites are a cancer that forces a lot of small business to fall apart and close.

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I don’t want you to explain your countries issues. And I would never claim to understand them. Like you said

So is the history of black Americans. I can only speak of my experiences. And when you come in and call my country fucked up to the core and you don’t even understand the message of black lives matter, instead of staying something, listen.

A lot of people are pissed. A lot of people that are here everyday are pissed off. And when you make a statement like that, it seems like you’re trolling or antagonizing.

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I know that here in Italy the “ultras” of the Lazio team were know to have ties with groups that were straight up far rightist and/or neo-fascist, so I’m aware of how bad they can get.

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Definitely no S this season considering how balanced it is. We’ve had 4 different CPT online events with 4 different winning characters. If you include Topanga League it would be 5 different winning characters.

Even the lower tier characters seem like they can at least put up a fight this season. Gunfight made an Alex match-up chart which gave him roughly the same amount of winning matchups as losing. Meanwhile every tier list you see on twitter has Alex on the very bottom. It’s been awhile since people have been optimistic about characters like Alex, Vega, etc.

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Let’s be honest here, CPT Online wins get asterisks. That netcode really is a problem.

Not that I disagree with you, but then again, it has been a while since I last played V.

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S doesnt mean broken, it means a char with almost all of its matchups being favorable.
You can have a really balanced game with chars being on S because almost all their matchups are 6:4 against the rest of the cast with maybe some sprinklled matches here and there that are 7:3, and maybe some that are bad matchups but not something polarizing againt it.

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For sure but if you look at the winners, they’re all strong players who’d you’d probably expect to win anyway. Phenom, Pikoro, ManDrake, SKZ (admittedly haven’t heard of him since this year but has an amazing Seth) and Tokido. Online definitely affects the results but I still think we can’t throw them out the window.

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Lmao, a friend of mine that now is a teacher on the university we studied told me that after more than 10 years all the nicknames i popularized for many of our teachers are still being used by the new students :joy:

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Ask different people and they’ll give you different definitions of just what different tier ranks mean.

Some will say S is broken tier, others create even higher tiers like S+ or SS for “broken”, and still others will create even higher tiers. Some would argue your example really balanced game tops out with A tier. Others might create A+ for the chars with no bad matches but no truly dominating good matches. And then you have the people who just see the tier ranks used for one game and apply them directly to a completely different game without considering why those ranks were deemed “necessary”.

Yeah, i know.
The difference is that the actual correct usage is as i explained, comes from using a matchup chart to make an aggregate of the points the characters have based on the matchup chart and then you assign the ranks based on that.

That many people use the terminology incorrectly doesnt make it right.

It is also why the current way ofmaking tierlist is so terrible, because is not only not using data, but tells you an incomplete history.

You cant know how good or bad a char really is because the tier list could say it is B, but mostly because all its matchups are 6:4 against it, which while not excellent, it doesnt mean is an unviable option.
Neither tells you if the tiers are compressed or are really huge divisions between ranks.

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But in the end, everyone is too lazy to do matchup charts anymore. No one wants to put in the actual work that goes into making a legitimate tier list, and to be honest consumers don’t want to think more than necessary either. SF4 is probably the last time those were done and will be done.

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I didn’t say throw them out the window. An asterisk isn’t complete dismissal.

I just don’t consider them to be the same as Offline wins. There are too many factors that are different and influence the results.

While that’s true, this isn’t a pass for misdefinitions, especially when considering the scale of it.

An S rank, by definition, is something that is above the regular grading system. It’s not a tier to be given lightly.

It’s like putting something in G rank. Since the standard letter grade system only goes down to F, or at most F-, when you say “Character X is G tier”, you expect it to be so abysmal that it can’t even be considered in the tier.

This is why that argument doesn’t apply. If you’re using an tier going from ‘Top’ to ‘Bottom’, you can safely say “Urien is Top Tier” without giving the inherent conotation that Urien is broken. Urien is among the best in the game. Whether that is broken or not, is not specified.

There’s a clear misuse of S Rank labels in most Tier Lists, and frankly, it feels like clickbait at this point.

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Lupe vs Soulja Boy will save the FGC

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There are actual matchup charts (or matchup tiers) for SFV. You see some dedicated mains post them for time to time.

People just don’t have much interest in those since to discuss these, you need to discuss actual matchups instead of dropping some spicy hot take about a general tier list like:

"LMAO, FANG at B? He’s hot garbage, put him at F where he belongs! :joy: :ok_hand: :100: "

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This man went full Joker when he won. Soulja Console tech too strong, there’s no input lag in it. :rofl: