The shooter games thread returns! The Empire Of Ammo says, EVERYBODY GETS SHOT!

[HeaT]

This is the first time I’ve ever heard people bitch because slow down was removed from a game. WTF people?

they apparently havent played the game coop and/or used a bomb.

im outi

Roberth

[Gasaraki]

they apparently havent played the game coop and/or used a bomb.

im outi

Roberth

As others said, they removed SOME of the slowdown, though not all. It just shouldn’t have been removed at all though

[Radiantsilvergun3]

Yeah, as nikkos said, slowdown in shmups isn’t the same as it is in other games. It’s actually to help you lol

Yea but thats still hardly a reason to call it a bastardization or an abomination. It’s just a little different. Besides harder just means you gotta be more bad ass

[d3v]

More Akai Katana info, with some (small) gameplay shots. Game’s coming out on the 19th of August apparently.
http://www.versuscity.net/2010/07/20/akai-no-katana-release-date/
http://www.versuscity.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/1542099515_213.jpg

[HeaT]

maybe im not understanding something about deathsmiles achievements either that or they are glitched because.

the first time i beat the game with casper i didnt get the achievement for it but i did get choose to stay achievement. now i beat it with casper again, choosing all level 3 and beating gorge and castle and with no bombs and i got no achievements. like what?

i mean beating it with a character is pretty clear cut so im not sure why the achievements are not showing up?

im outi

Roberth

[d3v]

First Akai Katana footage from Versus City.
Versus City ? Blog Archive ? First Akai Katana Gameplay Footage

Haven’t taken the time to really analyze the footage, but giving me an Imperial Japanese flavoured ProGear vibe.

[scum_gale_88]

been playing Gleylancer today, really fun. I like it a lot. too bad I totally suck at horizontal shooters.

[nikkos010]

First Akai Katana footage from Versus City.
Versus City ? Blog Archive ? First Akai Katana Gameplay Footage

Haven’t taken the time to really analyze the footage, but giving me an Imperial Japanese flavoured ProGear vibe.

that 2nd gunner/power orb/tail gunner or whatever is obnoxious… The main ship has 1 weapon while your “partner” has an entire arsenal. Was hard for me to focus on the main ship and where it was flying.

[scum_gale_88]

saw Space Invaders Extreme 2 for cheap so I got that. very fun. I always hated Space Invaders but I love the spin they put on this one. I don’t quite get how the power up system works though, maybe I should read the manual.

[Elixir]

This is the first time I’ve ever heard people bitch because slow down was removed from a game. WTF people?

New to the genre?

I can’t even imagine playing the Forest and Volcano without slowdown. Then again it’s region locked so it won’t work on my JP 360, so I don’t know for sure.

[FurryCurry]

saw Space Invaders Extreme 2 for cheap so I got that. very fun. I always hated Space Invaders but I love the spin they put on this one. I don’t quite get how the power up system works though, maybe I should read the manual.

Get four of the same color kills in the row, then the icon drops for you to pick up that power up (like green is a straight laser I think).

But if you liked SIE2, just wait till you play Infinity Gene.

[Starhammer]

I have no idea if there is a thread for Gun Shooter style games. If not you should make one.

I think there was one before and it got merged. I might have that wrong so if I were you, I’d PM a mod first. If you don’t feel like going that route, I personally welcome all shooter fans, be it the guy with the machine gun or the person flying the overgrown space fighters. :tup: Like I said, EVERYBODY gets shot.

Those hit boxes just keep getting smaller and smaller so they can floor the screen with more and more bullets lol.

yup. Try comparing oldschool Life force or Contra to the stuff from Cave or Psikyo. those hit boxes are the size of garbage trucks in comparasin.

raystorm HD is pretty good

Ah. Which system? (PLEASE SAY PLAYSTATION!)

Because in CAVE games, the slowdowns are basically programmed into the game. These games were created on custom hardware, the devs would deliberately pump enough sprites onto the screen to slow it down in order to A: create the “holy fck" feeling, and B. Let you survive the "holy fck” moment when the screen is covered with thousands of tiny bullets with only a small little path of safety.

Go find yourself a copy of Progear and watch the last attack of the 2nd level boss - impossible if it wern’t for slowdown. (and I still feel like a god each time)

heh. The slowdown can help and yes, stage 2 is a BEAST. Try ESP Ra De on Stage 4 or 5. after the first time I beat that game, I felt like I deserved the keys to the city. Stage 5 made me sweat like a prison bitch in the shower with ten convicted rapists. Little old lady >>>>>> Me.

First Akai Katana footage from Versus City.
Versus City ? Blog Archive ? First Akai Katana Gameplay Footage

Haven’t taken the time to really analyze the footage, but giving me an Imperial Japanese flavoured ProGear vibe.

I was thinking close to the same thing. It’ll take less time to get used to, but I’m guessing more time to master.

-Starhammer-

[Radiantsilvergun3]

New to the genre?

I can’t even imagine playing the Forest and Volcano without slowdown. Then again it’s region locked so it won’t work on my JP 360, so I don’t know for sure.

Not at all. I’m just less picky about it.

[Tiggy]

New to the genre?

I can’t even imagine playing the Forest and Volcano without slowdown. Then again it’s region locked so it won’t work on my JP 360, so I don’t know for sure.

I’ll be honest…unless you’re playing Lv999 on MBL then those stages aren’t too hard IMO.

[nikkos010]

Not at all. I’m just less picky about it.

You’ll have to remember that up until now the only way to play the complete original versions of these games was by owning the actual boards - which were custom hardware to begin with, and nothing since DoDonPachi and Progear has been truly playable on MAME.

People from the board/rom scene really really like complete and total duplication of gameplay. It’s important historically for preservation (CAVEs titles rightfully deserve it) and then of course for the experience of playing “as it was meant to be.” In CAVE games it is not only the shapes and the colors that are part of the artistic process, slowdown - the manifestation of limitations - too was artistically woven into the narration of the game.

[d3v]

been playing Gleylancer today, really fun. I like it a lot. too bad I totally suck at horizontal shooters.

I freakin’ love that game.

[c001357]

hunting for regionfree games for my american 360. that i just got. as a gift. ahahha. hah.
grinding on ddp and dangun in the meantime

[Elixir]

I’ll be honest…unless you’re playing Lv999 on MBL then those stages aren’t too hard IMO.

Even the top runs deliberately run into apples in the Forest stage on MBL, and that’s in the Japanese version. It really shouldn’t be that hard for a level which can be selected from the beginning.

[Tiggy]

Even the top runs deliberately run into apples in the Forest stage on MBL, and that’s in the Japanese version. It really shouldn’t be that hard for a level which can be selected from the beginning.

lol I always pick Halloween Town first, just so I can do the scoring tricks with the Volcano and Graveyard later in the playthrough

[Radiantsilvergun3]

You’ll have to remember that up until now the only way to play the complete original versions of these games was by owning the actual boards - which were custom hardware to begin with, and nothing since DoDonPachi and Progear has been truly playable on MAME.

People from the board/rom scene really really like complete and total duplication of gameplay. It’s important historically for preservation (CAVEs titles rightfully deserve it) and then of course for the experience of playing “as it was meant to be.” In CAVE games it is not only the shapes and the colors that are part of the artistic process, slowdown - the manifestation of limitations - too was artistically woven into the narration of the game.

Yea yea i get all that shit. I really do trust me. But the games still fucking fun as hell. Seriously. Fuck Metal Slug X on SP1 is all kinds of fucked up but the game still fucking fun. There’s a difference between being disappointed with a game missing some shit and calling it dog shit and not worth the purchase cuz it’s a little bit different. Games fucking fun. Yea it’s to bad it’s a bit off but that doesn’t it from being fucking fun.

This is why I’m not a big fan of games as art. It’s like the most important part of the game gets left behind in the transition.