The shooter games thread returns! The Empire Of Ammo says, EVERYBODY GETS SHOT!

For 1.1 it might be necessary, since the amount of suicide bullets is pretty intense.

You have a J-360, I assume (or A-360)? I would be curious to play Deathsmiles, from what I read it seemed a lot less masochistic than the normal Cave output, which is a welcome change.

So people are expected to use the 360 controller in a Cave game? Iā€™m not sure how I should feel about this.

I have a J 360 and live in Japan.

Given that Mushihimesama Futari is coming out for the J360 I would encourage people to pick one up sooner or later. Both of these games are worth the cost of admission IMO, and when you consider that Dodonpachi Daifukkatsu is probably around the corner in 2010, itā€™s just going to get better.

Only fitting that DS get turned into a twin stick shooter when it got ported to the 360 I guess. So can you just park your option on top of your character in 1.1 mode or is it stuck at a minimum distance from you?

Mildly interested in 1.1 but not that much really. DS and MBL both have pretty shitty scoring systems so Iā€™ll probably manage to still avoid getting a J360 until maybe if DFK gets a port. Edit: Actually Futari 1.5 is pretty good so I might spring for one once that comes out. Never gave Maniac mode enough time before I sold it.

Haha, what donā€™t you like about the DS scoring system? One thing that frustrates me is how basically a ton of your score comes from levels like the canyon/ice palace which you canā€™t even get to until after completing six smaller levels. Just takes forever. Luckily, the training mode in 360 DS will let us get some practice in on both those levels, so thatā€™s good news.

Futari Black Maniac is incredible IMO. Never played 1.5 so much so I canā€™t say though.

How did options operate in the DS/MBL? I probably wonā€™t bother with 1.1 if it requires the 360 controller, because, you know, Iā€™m actually trying to get myself away from it.

Options move in different ways for each character, but for instance Windiaā€™s option would move when youā€™re tapping shot and stay still when youā€™re holding laser. Generally they move in the direction youā€™re going except for Rosa, whoā€™s reversed.

Only characters Iā€™ve ever been able to use very effectively in death mode were Windia and Sakura.

So why would you need the right analog stick for that? Wouldnā€™t it be pointless for Rosa then?

Edit: All I have to go by is a replay that I have. Heā€™s waiting for skulls to bounce off the floor before getting them, and he doesnā€™t seem to be using his options a great deal. Is this right?

Edit 2: Something tells me Iā€™m really not going to understand this properly until I play it. :frowning:

Hey so some 360 games are region free right? any chance this will be?

edit: guess not. fuck

Well, DSā€™s problems are mostly with the difficulty being terribly balanced and the fact that the last two stages boil down to absorbing shit loads of suicide bullets and never using power-up and never getting hit.

MBLā€™s problem is that the penalty for dieing is brutally harsh. You lose anywhere from 500m to 1b points or more if you die. Thatā€™s really crap in a game that specifically pushes you to play super risky (ie, picking Level 999, letting bullets pile up to cancel, etc). Basically means, any time you die you might as well restart, if you are playing for score. So it just ends up being really frustrating to play.

Just all together though, DeathMode2 suicide bullets are annoying as fuck and just not that much fun. This is especially true when you do Ice Palace at DM2, as when you blow up the large structures you can get suicide bullets covering the whole damn screen, sniping you from behind and such.

In 1.1, you just control your option with the analog stick. So it doesnā€™t operate like the Arcade version of the game.

When it comes to items, when trying to fill your Item Counter, you want to pick up the largest items as possible. When in Power-Up, you always want to let them break up into skulls, because all item types increase the +counter by the same amount and you get something like 2x skulls for 1 white crown, and some odd number of white crowns and skulls for each gold crown.

Chances are if the replay you are watching is any good, they are doing a LOT with their options. There are a lot of fine points to scoring and controlling your character in the game that are not obvious.

Sounds complicated, but Iā€™m hoping it really isnā€™t. I didnā€™t even notice Ketsuiā€™s scoring system in all the vids I saw of it, until I actually played it myself.

Anyway, I managed to get all the illustration cards (for a single character) in Otomedius. Never again, that shit was torture.

Adversity, I really hope you knew that you only needed to get all the illustration cards/weapon cards with a single character, and not all of them like it claims.

Haha you finally did it huh?

Seriously that has got to be one of the worst achievements designed for the 360. Just totally insane. I was literally talking on the phone with people while reseting the levels over and over again. That and DOJā€™s ridiculously stupid achievements have soured me pretty hard on them. Deathsmilesā€™ look good though.

Yeah, I ended up doing it out of boredom. Unfortunately I thought getting all weapon cards would do the trick, so I ended up getting all of them first. Otomedius is only fun if you can get a good co-op game running on later stages, or loop 2. Some characters seem underpowered as fuck, in comparison to ones like Tita, who has homing missiles + shadow laser/web, or the new characters which have auto aim/web. Side note: This game has the most IRRITATING FUCKING DEATH CRIES EVER.

Actually, that green girl thatā€™s DLC has every single attack available. Poini doesnā€™t, but theyā€™re both the same price. Doesnā€™t make ANY sense at all.

But yeah, I donā€™t like the game outside of co-op. Furthermore I think itā€™s pretty fucking dumb that if the host dies, the game shuts down. Meaning the other two players get booted out. Seems like most people use shadow laser for bosses and web for everything else, or auto aim. Missiles are broken for parts like mid-Alexandria where thereā€™s enemies behind you which you CANNOT destroy any other way.

Oh yeah and the black lolis are voiced by Rie Kugimiya. moe~oh god what am I saying

Shooting Love 200Xā€™s achievements are equally as fucking stupid as Otomedius. On one hand, you have good ones like ā€œreach level 99 on x minigameā€, and on the other you have ā€œpause the game at 21 seconds into the fourth boss and he will drop a bombā€. Oh yeah, and 98% of them are Secret Achievements. I always laugh at the line ā€œYou must unlock this achievement to find out more about itā€.

I want a real XBLA/PSN game. ROAAAAR!

Havenā€™t played shmups before, but got to play brave blade at an arcade and enjoyed it. Are there any games similar for jps2 or dc that you could switch the ship for melee or some sort?

hey 6lue. Sorry I missed this question earlier. Since I havenā€™t played brave blade yet I canā€™t answer the question, but Iā€™ll bump this up so that some others here may see it and answer. Iā€™ll be looking for the answer as well as getting shot.

Speaking of which, my ESP Ra De skills have slipped most shamefully. I canā€™t even get to the third stage without dying anymore. :sad: The answer, as I see it, is to get myself shot.

-Starhammer-

I managed to beat a couple of shooters while I was gone for 2 months. R-Type Leo! Fun game, a bit different from the other R-Types but certainly not a bad thing.

I also finished Salamander II (Lifeforce II). That game actually be easier than the original, but itā€™s still tough. The final boss has a hilarious line ā€œIā€™M GOING TO SCARE YOU LIKE YOUā€™VE NEVER BEEN SCARED BEFORE!ā€ Man, that game has some incredible music. Got the OST for it, too.

LMFAO!!! I have to hunt down that game now. thanks to MAME, I can play the arcade version of it for a day, but that sounds like a keeper. **Iā€™m going to scare you like youā€™ve never been scared before!" ** If that isnā€™t a warning and a half for your ass, I donā€™t know what is.

R-Type Leo has been getting some love too. I might have to hunt this one up and get myself shot as well.

-Starhammer-

Been playing Raiden Fighters Aces. As have others on SRK. Sorry I never bumped the thread but yeah, people are getting shot as we speak.

If you own a 360 get the game. I donā€™t even care if you donā€™t like shmups. Itā€™s only $20