The SF2 Hyper Fighting Thread

The Ryu vs Guile debate has been as old as the SF2 days itself, overall, the consensus has always been that within Hyper Fighting, Ryu has had the slight advantage over Guile.

Remember, this is at the Top-Tier status level, in which case, how many of us can truly be at that level today?

The Ryu sweep on Guile c.mk was something that the strongest Ryu players at that time could do, and consistently. However it isn’t just that, however if you can find some videos of an old and out of his prime Tomo playing a Guile player on HF as Ryu. You can see how he forces Guile to the corner, where Ryu without question has the advantage to barrage him with projectiles while staying outside of his best pokes.

Hurricane Kick over Sonic Boom was definitely viable, however nobody would spam this, it just had to land once or at most twice, which would already put a Guile player into second guessing on their sonic booms.

At full screen range, Ryu has the projectile advantage easily, to even the mid-range point, and this is another advantage to him because he can force Guile to him. It only becomes more even when Guile is within range to backfist in a fireball trade or his c.mk.

However at that range, Ryu can also play the footsie game since unlike his SFV counterpart who overall has trash footsie buttons, HF Ryu has powerful footsie buttons, and c.lk which can stuff c.mk, and or the c.fk sweep on whiff Guile c.mk along with hurricane over boom.

Although Watson does say that one should never ever jump against a Guile, because you will get anti-aired. We should consider that Watson is more than likely speaking from his experience taking on Tomo Ohiras Guile…which was/is the Best Guile on the planet during the Golden Era of Hyper Fighting.

Even Watson made a statement on srk back in the early-mid 2000s of where he would play a 100 set match in a HF mirror match of Ryu vs Ryu against Tomo back during the height of HF, and get stomped 70-30. Watson at that time would have easily been one of the Top-3 Ryu players on the planet, arguably #2 only after Tomo.

I don’t know if they still have the old debates from way back in the early 90s when the internet was young and yes, people were already arguing the Ryu vs Guile debate back then. I am sure they’re still around on the internet, and if you do find them, the consensus even back then, when everyone was playing Hyper Fighting 24/7 and it was being broken down like crazy, most agreed that Ryu had the advantage over Guile.

Hyper Fighting to me, is easily my most beloved SF game of all time, such a shame father time has taken over, and priorities have changed.

Still the best SF game of all time if you ask me.

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damn i got this message to late…message me on ps4 so i will get the messages at once

TrueSephiroth, how do you see the Sagat vs Blanka matchup breaking down? I really want to know more about that one.

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Happy Holidays to the last remaining fumes of the Hyper Fighting community!!

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So apparently, there is going to be a HF side tourney at EVO Japan 2020:

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Mario Tennis too?

Can we substitute Smash for that?

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That’s a tough match up for Sagat. Blankas fast jump, and his range gives Sagat problems in HF. One mistimed low tiger shot and that’s pretty much a guaranteed dizzy vs a great Blanka, even a straight jump FK close can punish Sagats arms.

C.fp and Sweep are amazing buttons to use against low tiger shots (Or against most projectile characters) on tradeoffs because Blanka will come out on top with damage, and if it’s the sweep than you also have the advantage on wakeup.

Imo, Blanka is Top-3 in HF, with only Ryu (best character overall) and Guile being the only two I feel whom are better characters.

Don’t ever get caught in the Blanka Train, that setup is 100% legit in HF.

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Thanks for the great answer TS. I think I might try to learn Guile or Blanka. Right now I’m using Ryu and Sagat, have been for years, but I think Sagat has limitations, relatively speaking. I think Guile is cooler, I like his moves, but I think Blanka is maybe more dominant, so that makes learning him tempting. I like using Ryu but don’t always want to play Ryu vs Ryu. It’s nice to be able to throw other characters into the mix.

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Double Post sorryyyyyy:

Long time without playing! This time, from Venezuela!

EDIT: More matches!

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https://twitter.com/silentscope88/status/1227385202722275328

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Is this guy a member here? Give hijm a follow…

https://twitter.com/sf2hf92

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Some matches we had here in Venezuela. Nothing high level, but showing some love for HF!

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Guys I’ve started a FB group, come join:

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Guys I started a T-shirt brand and have started with a bunch of SFII inpired designs. Would really appreciate any follows at my twitter: https://twitter.com/oschamps
or facebook page: Redirecting...
to get going, Cheers!

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that ST one though!

:open_mouth:

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Guys come join the HF Revival Discord. This is now where the online players meet for 30th and fightcade etc. Guys on there from Cali, NZ and Trinidad etc:
https://discord.gg/xMpg2BT

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Love this interview and I have asked James many times to try and get other OG players like Jeff, Watson and especially Tomo on, because the modern cats need to hear from the Top Dogs of that era and how it was.

Not to mention their statements pertaining to Street Fighter games like Hyper Fighting would be second to none, since all of them were around during that time frame, and were the absolute best of the best.

What has boggled my mind hearing from that interview is how people would somehow discredit Tomo’s dominance. Tomo destroying the competition the way he did was no fluke

Tomo dominated CE. Dictator in Champion Edition using Ryu and Guile, and Dictator within that particular SF game is easily in my mind the most broken tournament legal SF character of all time. O. Sagat, 3S Chun, 2I Ibuki, AE Yun, Vanilla Sagat, ST. Claw, etc would all look like balanced characters in comparison.

That to me is the most impressive feat, considering just the amount of bs CE. Dictator can do, I could go on, but I don’t want to detract.

In case some people may not know down below is a video link about the early days of SF2 with Jeff Schaeffer who was easily one of the absolute best SF2 players (In HF, he arguably was #2 only behind Tomo) in the US during that time. Within the video you can hear him speak about his days as one of SF2’s best, Tomo’s dominance, and his World’s Finest Grand Finals match up where he pitted his HF. Blanka vs Tomo’s Ryu.

If you just want to hear about Hyper Fighting, then go to the time frame of 8:00, however if you want to hear about the earlier years like World Warrior and Champion Edition, then obviously watch it from the beginning onward.

Hope some of you who never saw this video will enjoy it.

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