The Power of U2: SSF4 Rose Match-up Thread

Use reflect against fireball, C.HP against jump in.

Her standing mk/hk work pretty well for me against Ryu. Especially ones that like to poke with cr.mk as she floats right over their toes.

i have a question about the matchup with Juri…since the kick part of her Fuhajin (her fireball) counts as a projectile, can you absorb her foot ? lol i know its probably not practical, just wondering if you can absorb her kick. would be kinda funny

hey I too have had some trouble with T hawk match up for the exact same reason as you…in retrospect, I think walking forward a step then blocking to bait a Dive and then dashing under him for a punish…also I have faced a few (and I mean very few Sims) online and the last 1 was pretty much playing the way Sim should be played…typically predictable but I couldn’t find what to do then…looking back I would say just wait for those inevitable yoga fires and dash back and absorb as many as possible to build meter…also i think Rose can focus 1 of his EX fires and dash back to soul absorb the last at right spacing…I had pretty nice run once I did knock Sim down, mix up with a cross up and s.MK and FADC’ed sould sparks…but I still lost and felt I could have done more. BTW I used Ultra 1 against Sims

The Rose vs Ken match up is so shyte…you have to not drop any links with Rose or else DP’d, ppl who like to mash cr.Jab sure s.mk prioritizes but DP that mk from sweep distance and even blocking to punish can backfire when all Ken has to do is DP when u try to punish =/ same thing with with Sagat just an Observation of about 500 Ken matches…Ken’s risk reward factor shits all on Rose’s

Dont miss links :looney:

I try man I try:rolleyes:

He’s right.

And if you do miss a link, make sure you miss it early so a move doesn’t come out.

Rose is a down+back character anyway.

^ I try to bait and punish but Ken is so Fast and random…Ken and Guile give the most trouble with Rose

Bait DP mashers. Intentionally start and stop block strings. I’ll even intentionally “drop” a link if I think they’re mashing. Easier during tournies since you can listen for buttons.

And casuals :P.

I faced my second ever Elf the other night, and I just have no idea what to do. I know he’s all shenanigans. I seem to be able to dash out of his run shenanigans most of the time, but I have no idea how to actually approach him and start doing damage. He’s so quick, and seems difficult to zone effectively.
I also struggle to get out of run mixups on my wakeup. I know its not a vortex, but the Elf’s I’ve faced make it look like it is.

Alright awesome thank you guys!

VS fuerte
If he’s wall jumping from full screen neutral jump as he touches his wall and you can land and combo him. Although good fuertes probably won’t be this predictable, but a lot of his rushing in stuff you can deal with by neutral jumping. Don’t abuse it because he can air throw you, try to pressure him with pokes and selective shamwows because his ex dash has 3 hits of armor. I think you can throw him out of the dash as well. I’ve also soul thrown him out of whiffed habanero throws a few times, not sure how consistent this is though.

Most fuertes get their damage after they have knocked you down, he’s got one of hte best mixups against knocked down opponents. Remember to tech occasionally to throw off his timing, otherwise (partially borrowed from bison forum)

  • Tostada Press: Your backdash is one of the best so it’ll get you out of tostada on wakeup most of the time too, unless they purposely do it late.
  • Fajita Buster; back dashing the moment it’s about to grab because the invincible frames early on can evade it. This decision is beaten by Tostada Press instead because the range can be changed.
  • Slide; block and crouch tech option select because it’s pretty safe on block. A note about this is that El Fuerte can Habanero Dash Backward and flip into another Tostada Press or Propeller Tortilla throw you pretty quickly as well

lls Saqs where in MD do u live? Im in Landover Hills

anyone has some tips to deal with balrog?
I feel really uncomfortable play against him, i dont know how to make pressure on him and i feel pretty unsafe zoning him with fireballs.
what do u guys do against rogs?

^ I think this is pretty much a 50/50 match…I use Rog on the side and its a close one, you can throw Rog out of his charge attacks with good reaction and you can cross him up but he can jab the shit out of you and annoy the fuck out of you but cross ups and tick throws work great especially on turtlers. cross up and bait out a head butt but beware of a throw and watch ur fire balls at certain distances (DUHZ)

oh i see, so its all about grabing rog.
i try to use slide -> grab against rogs but its not that effective , as soon as i slide they start to mash jab and fuck me out lol
thx for the advice man

Rose has a kara grab…use the invincibility of her s.MK then cancel into grab

Clinton.