The Political Thread 2021

Well my understanding is he didn’t take slaves and even if he did he’s hardly unique amongst any other group on the world for that at that time.
Also his crew did the raping, not him, but thats a little splitting hairs so whatever. I mean dudes kind of a total fuckup in general. Didn’t find India, brought home nothing of value to his sponsor, died penniless and alone.

shrug

Most of that list up there is retarded honestly.

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https://twitter.com/Public_Citizen/status/1351234775076499458?s=19

Mike Pence needs to shut the fuck up forever…

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It’s probably because most attention has usually been given to his travels and exploration rather than his administration by mainstream history. I myself didn’t know the guy actually administered anything until I researched it on my own.

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I still find it ironic north and south america are named after someone else not the guy who “discovered” them.

Anyways it’s not worth discussing. Imo columbus was a pos and nothing will ever change my mind on that.

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I remember in elementary that we had assemblies celebrating Columbus discovering America and all the riches and Christianity he brought to the unwashed masses…it wasn’t until after high school I learned his accomplishments were greatly exaggerated.

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How could the guy name the new continent after himself when he believed until the end that he really ended up in East Asia instead of somewhere else?

It’s not about changing your mind.

It’s kind of weird, because even the guy who the Americas are named after didn’t try to name them. He just got a little famous for basically saying “man, it’s a whole new world over there”, so some mapmaker slapped the guy’s name on a map when he needed to call those continents something that people would recognize, and that precedent stuck.

There are historians who debate whether Americgo Vespucci ever even went to the Americas.

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Who’s that Pokemon!?

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How do Europeans handle conquerors? Are they celebrated?

I feel like whether right or wrong America has a lot of “heroes” we have holidays and shit for.

He found jack shit, Columbus got lost then decide to loot a bunch of the native inhabitants for their gold so the Queen of Spain would not take his head when he returned empty handed.

Amerigo Vespucci actually “discovered” the Americas, the two continents are even named after him.

Why we have a Columbus Day but not a Amerigo Vespucci day?

Shit with trying to honor that shit Columbus needs to end, Columbus discovering America is a myth.
Columbus “discovered” the caribbean and he didn’t realize there additional land mass further West other than China.

Not to mention Vikings landed centuries before Columbus did.

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Yes, like every country on the planet. In Canada we have statues of famous explorers and we “celebrate” Samuel de Champlain, Jacques Cartier, Louis Joliet… We have events like the New France festival every year.

Let’s not forget the Japanese who venerate the worst war criminals in existence.

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The Hilarity continues…

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Do these individuals have their own special holidays in Canada as well?

People can make statues about stuff. Doesn’t make it necessarily right or wrong because it really depends on perspective.

I’m wondering are these individuals celebrated nationally in other places. Like is there a Jacques Cartier day or whatever?

Also how we feeling about the minimum wage increase now?

I remember like 2 years ago when fight for 15 came up, it seemed like a lot of people were pushing back on it?

We do have days for these famous explorers but they are not off days per say. The New France Festival is the only thing I can think of as far as celebration. But they are not demonized to the same extent as Christopher Columbus and other more controversial explorers, even though they done a lot of harm to the natives in their own ways.

About the minimum wage increase, why is it nation wide? Why not just set the minimum wage to half the average hourly wage in each state? That’s what we’re doing here in Canada. Each states have its own specificities, the standard of living is not the same, it doesn’t make sense to make it nation wide.

The average hourly wage is supposedly 27 bucks an hour, so the minimum wage would be 13.5$. 15$ is not so far off, but that’s different for every state.

https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career/how-much-does-the-average-american-get-paid-per-hour.html/

Idk. Probably has to do with the original establishment of the minimum being national. The problem with where it was is that it hadn’t increased in like 10ish years, while everything else has been on it’s normal steady climb