The Political Thread 2021

Don’t blame them…

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If the Republicans were smart, they’d learn from the Trump situation (i.e. why he was elected, what that represents, where they could go from here) and take the good things about the movement while leaving the bad and make a better more honest version of the party. Of course, they aren’t smart, so we can only guess how it’ll develop from here, but I’m glad the Trump people got pissed at the establishment Republicans because those guys are useless in pretty much every way.

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Yeah. Maybe I’m just lucky having been raised in a household where “normal” parenting was transactional, and not unconditional. So I was able to spot this bullshit a long way off.

Ever since Obama I’ve been very disappointed with the bald faced lying politicians do while campaigning, and then dropping it all to take orders from the donor class. When he campaigned I said, “He’s not going to close Gitmo” and on top of that he went right along with re-upping that trash Patriot Act, and let Wall Street walk off Scott free after decimating communities like mine which was already in a poor state.

Maybe we’re simply too far gone to exist in a political sphere where politicians can focus on small issues they can tackle and be a bit closer to honest.

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This is why getting involved in your local elections is so important. You’ll see more immediate changes in your community than on a national level.

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https://twitter.com/washingtonpost/status/1350528489657688064?s=19

…well!

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I can’t believe it.

What might have caused such a radical change? :thinking:

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silly question. but why do the united states haveta be united? when we really arent united at all.
why cant each state be its own nation? and each nation just trade goods and services with each other. living in peace with its 49 other neighbors. and everyone is happy because everyone is getting its appropriate representation in its local ruling government that appropriately reps them.
instead of what we have now which is.
constant infighting and arguing and hatred over the fact theres always a side that isnt happy and feeling misrepresented by congress and the president in washington d.c.
since the civil war.
so whats the point of the union again?
its not like a foreign nation from the old world will ever invade the americas, thanks the the OAS treaty that protects every country in the americas from ever being invaded by the old world. the treaty states that if a country from europe or africa or asia ever tries to invade a country in north and south america, that all countries in the america unites to repel the old world invader. so we are all safe.
so the union of the usa isnt even really necessary. the whole…unity=strength isnt really valid anymore thanks to the OAS treaty. since no one is ever invading the americas. besides if they ever did we would still all unite and fight any invader anyway.
so i dont really get the point of having a united states in 2021.
maybe it was ok in the past.
but obviously the country is massive. the size of a continent. and having washington d.c. tryin to rep all of us. and our interests as a whole. isnt really working out.
let each state rep itself. be its own nation. and everyone is freakin happy.
right now. and ever since the civil war.
its just like watching a marriage between two polar opposite people that hate each other and constantly fighting yet refuse to divorce for no good reason only to end up mutually constantly miserable.

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The union is about unity. Wealthy states produce taxes that benefit less wealthy states. Think of any federal program in existence. Post office, social security, etc.

If no one is going to help each other you destabilize a big chunk of the middle of the country.

So then you get no US military protection, and then states just start overtaking each other since there is no longer an enforcement of borders.

The division sucks, but all the checks the parties place on each other stop a lot of nonsense. Like I’d imagine there’d be a bunch of southern states with people too poor to relocate who’d instantly ban abortion. California or a super left state would probably actually ban guns. There’d be states who fully eliminate all social services. Etc

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Man, you really don’t want states as separate countries. The amount of shit countries that share land borders need to cooperate on is fucking massive, and we just aren’t set up for that.

You really want to wait in customs to get your passport stamped every time you cross a state border? You want to have to apply for a new citizenship every time your employment opportunities move to a new location? You want the landlocked states to be choked off from the world because they don’t have any ports and coastal states realize that they can charge import/export tariffs?

It’s a fucking bad look.

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It’s even more odious on a local level. e.g. our last mayoral race boiled down to an incumbent that insists the city is safe despite rising gun violence, and homicides or a Humpty Hump looking jackass with multiple DUI’s that had the audacity to run on the slogan “Saftey First”. . .

Acknowledging that, I still work to inform myself and participate in local elections.

It would be nice if we could get some candidates that aren’t those turds you just can’t flush.

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Just out of curiosity, where do you live?

So, in other words: big Democrat states would do just great and get up there with Western Europe and Japan, while small Republican states would be third world country shitholes.
I guess Texas gets to be somewhere in the middle… Let’s say, Russia.

/s

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https://twitter.com/realCEOofANTIFA/status/1350580045132288005?s=19

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Part of me wonders if Northern European countries are able to achieve strong unionization rates and strong social services because of their demographics

I’m probably talking out of my ass but I’m curious as to how America’s diversity impacts Americans willingness to help each other. Like if everyone basically looks the same and there aren’t any preconceived notions of laziness or sneaky behavior, if there’d be as much pushback in terms of doing things that help us all.

I haven’t bothered to look into it/ read any papers on the subject but I would put money on ethnostates having the kind of benefits you’re talking about yes.

Ofc something like that would never be feasible in America given the nature of the country, but some people less then subtly try their damndest anyway…

California, a super leftist state, has turned into a shithole. Californians have been leaving the state for a while now.

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I’ve been to California a few times. It’s hardly a shithole. There is a pretty bad homeless problem (I guess due to cost of living) but LA and San Francisco are great places when they are not on fire. I’ve heard a lot of conservatives praising Texas as an alternative but they usually mention Austin, which is weird because that’s where all the hipsters are.

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I think California is a shit stain.

Even though my home of Maryland is a blue state, the last Governor election there some literal no body running for governor form the Democratic party who from Cali and see staunch Democrats vote Republican on that election as everyone said FUCK NO to Cali Dems politics.

No one from MD like Cali food (especially their sea food), politics, culture or anything else.
The shit can fall into the ocean after the big one.

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I dunno if that’s because the state is super left or because the state is overcrowded and extremely expensive

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You’re probably not wrong in some ways. But I think if we had more shared culture rather than everyone being told their “culture” matters and is special and should be celebrated over a national culture of sorts, maybe pop people would be more on the same page.

Its expensive because it’s a blue state. Blue states always have more/higher taxes which elevates the cost of living.

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