Bottom line like Boris said, Paterno was only told of the questionable situation. The allegations of rape never was brought up. Thats where i was getting at.
But the AD and university president didn’t tell the next man up. (In this case, the police) That’s the whole point.
As for McQueary, he was the actual eye-witness and should have called the police. Paterno was NOT the eye-witness and thus him reporting it to the AD and university president, but not the police, was reasonable.
Again, Purple Bunny wrote a good post on the matter. Ideally, Paterno would have followed up on the serious matter. Yeah, he probably made a mistake. But condemning a man who was told a wild accusation by a guy with very suspect behavior, and then still passed it on to his AD and university president the next day? That’s too much.
I don’t buy that. I’ve read the indictment. Skip to the part about Victim2.
http://www.freep.com/article/20111110/NEWS07/111100541/The-indictment-What-the-grand-jury-alleges-in-Penn-State-sex-abuse-case-involving-Jerry-Sandusky?odyssey=tab|mostpopular|text|FRONTPAGE
That is enough to call the cops. Everybody who didn’t call the police deserves being fired.
How do you go to work with Sandusky the next day and not want to smash his head in? How do you let that guy around your young players slapping their asses when somebody obviously distraught tells you something like that?
Yeah, except Sandunsky wasn’t working as a coach at the time. The incident occurred in 2002. Sandunsky last coached in 1999.
I don’t know where you’re getting your version of the story, but that’s not what the grand jury testimony says. That says the chain went McQueary > Paterno > Culley/Schultz > Spanier, with Culley and Schultz having a meeting with McQueary before taking it to Spanier. There is no mention of Paterno reporting it to Schultz or Spanier. He just passed it to the next man up, just like everybody else did.
But he was still on campus all the time. In fact, he was just there a week ago. It doesn’t change the point of the statement.
so wait is everyone who was in that chain of fail command facing charges? cause they all deserve to
The only one who deserves serious charges is Sandusky and maybe the athletic director
Finally figured out Cat in the Hat?
he did what at the time he thought was right. his real failure was not following it up.
has this been mentioned? http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/DA-Who-Never-Charged-Sandusky-Has-Been-Missing-Since-2005-133615093.html
Not in this thread, but it does add another level of bizarreness to it. I honestly don’t think it’s connected unless this thing is way bigger than we know so far, but something weird is going on there. I mean, look at this:
weird stuff
Spoiler
Curiously, Ray’s brother, Roy J. Gricar, disappeared under similar circumstances in Dayton, Ohio in May 1996. He told his wife he was going out to buy mulch and never returned. Later, his body was pulled from the Great Miami River. Roy’s drowning was ruled a suicide. Authorities investigated the possibility that Ray suffered from depression and took his own life as his brother did, but there is no evidence to support this theory. There were possible sightings of him in Wilkes-Barre, Pennsylvania on April 18, and in several other states across the country in the months after he went missing, but the sightings have not been confirmed and most of them are not considered credible. Police examined the district attorney office financial accounts after Ray vanished, but found no discrepancies in any of them.
That family has bizarre luck or strange connections. In any case, if his disappearance is related to this case, then this thing is probably way bigger than just a pedophile cover-up.
McQueary and the university president, too.
Now THIS I can agree with.
wow. this boris dude cant be fucking serious
What? I want Sandusky to be held responsible for this crimes and the AD to be fired. What more can you ask for? Paterno was unjustly fired and I guess that’s what the university thinks is right, but face it, Paterno is innocent and was screwed out of a hall of fame exit
wow. i dont like conicidences on this level.
really?
i stopped reading right after this. some shit is bigger than football. turning a blind eye to kiddie rape is one of them
No they don’t. As far as I’m concerned the only person who shouldn’t face charges is Paterno. What people need to do now is draw the line between morality and legality. I can kinda see Paterno being fired (still don’t 100% agree with it, but I can understand it), but he did nothing legally wrong. I’m pretty sure that there’s no law that states that someone with second hand knowledge of a crime is obligated to report it, and if you think about it there shouldn’t be. If there were then anyone who heard through someone else that someone did something would be obligated to report it and law enforcement agencies would be inundated with false reports. In spite of the fact that Paterno had “close” second hand knowledge it was still second hand. McQueary should definitely face it if he didn’t call the police. I don’t think that anyone should be legally obligated to stop a crime, but he definitely should have reported it.
The athletic director and president should face charges because by allowing him on the facility they enabled him to have access to children. Regardless of Paterno’s “legendary” status, the child molester was no longer in his employ. He had no official power over him, and therefore I don’t see how he can be brought up on charges.
I agree. Fuck his hall of fame exit, and fuck the Penn State fans trying to O-K child molestation.
are you dense? He never turned a blind eye to it, he simply reported a situation that happened (It was never reported as rape by the way) and moved the fuck on with his life. Hindsight is 20/20 and maybe he should’ve followed up but don’t make it like he was being lax about it.
Plus any person who mistakes this as people being okay with child rape is a fuckin idiot and needs to kill themselves.
Do you know how many people are raped per day? How many kids are raped per day? It’s a lot and the fact that this one happened 9 years ago and was an isolated incident, should not affect Paterno’s legacy as a coach or how the football program is impacted. He had nothing to do with the actual rape and was in no way complicit in the actual sodomy. But hey, you got your way, and Paterno was fired. You should be happy that an innocent man and living legend has now had his entire legacy tarnished because some pedophile decided to rape one kid
One? One? The fuck, man. And how the hell is even one okay?
Dude. Come on. Bro. Seriously.
Man…I’m out of words after reading this shit.