Why do you idiots keep acting like only one of them can be at fault, and if one is, the other isn’t? This is super dumb. In your stupid ass scenario, if one of your workers accused another of murder, and you never heard anything about it after reporting it in terms of confirmation or denial, don’t you think that would be a bit suspicious? Wouldn’t it be rather peculiar for you to continue working with the accuser while seeing the accused on the job site all the time for damn near a decade and it never comes up again? And that’s not even taking into consideration the fact that this was the second incident involving Sandusky.
I would still make the same call. I didn’t know who the fuck this Paterno dude was until 3 days ago. Paterno shouldn’t get a free pass, but demonizing him for not acting on
“hey i saw rape and im a fully capable adult, but you should do something about it not me”
situation is ridiculous.
read the above statement.
Don’t you think its more suspicious of a fully grown capable man, who BTW is a graduate student (we’ll assume he has critical thinking skills since that what’s school is for), not taking the initiative to call the police?
Paterno shouldn’t even be investigated for not calling the police, since he didn’t witness shit. He isn’t responsible for the rape of that kid as of now. They are burning him for the wrong reasons. What should be investigated is why in the fuck did that shit head grad student not call the cops, and then ended up with a gig like that after making a very bold claim about someone fucking a child. Was there black mail, and if so, we can then make the claim that Paterno knew all along and should be punished for whatever law he broke or act of crime.
If indeed Paterno had knowledge of crap like this happening on a regular basis due to different people reporting the same thing to him over and over, then I wouldn’t give a fuck. Burn him all you want. But wanting to prosecute a man for not calling the police…well come on.
Both people here are suspect. But at least make head’s or tails of the situation and stop wanting to burn a man for simple not calling the police
No it isn’t, don’t be an idiot. You said that Joe Pa probably hears all kinds of claims that his players raped other co-eds. An of-age person going to college is a little different than a 10 year old child. Don’t be an idiot.
With a name like “pedoviejo” which sounds from my limited knowledge of Spanish, can be loosely translated as “old pedo” should we be surprised that you are not in favor of people not calling the cops when someone reports a little boy being raped?
Remind me to nominate you for Dumbest Poster when the GD awards come around.
Do you have any idea how many accusations Paterno has heard in 61 years? Hell of a stupid-ass assumption to make with that guarantee that (1) that many accusations of rape are occuring that quickly, and (2) that it would take so long for Paterno to call the police instead of, I don’t know, the accuser calling the police themselves, that he would be too swamped to spend most of the week preparing for a football game.
This alleged incident took place in his own football facilities, along with other alleged incidents taking place in those facilities. Those are his domain, his responsibility. This university knew as early as 1998 of accusations against Sandusky, yet waited until after the incident in 2002 to ban him from bringing children to the facilities. And even then,he’s still allowed to hang around the campus and facilities for years, interacting with students and others, with no investigation into the allegations having taken place.
If Paterno was not aware of any of this, for nearly 13 years, then what business does he really have of being a football coach. And assuming he knew what the incident in 2002 was, why didn’t he follow up to make sure his football facilities, where his players are at times, were not being used to molest young boys? And if what he was told was vague, why didn’t he get clarification on what McQueary saw before just handing it over to the superiors who already knew the previous allegations against Sandusky, which leads back to Paterno’s own knowledge or lack of on that matter. And forget this notion that it would have gone over the head of the AD and President, and gotten him in trouble. He’s Joe Fucking Paterno. He [S]IS[/S] was Penn State. No way if he brings it to someone’s attention that they fire him, unless they want the full brunt of canning an icon who helped put an alleged pedophile away.
No one is making Paterno out to be The Devil. He’s not a bad guy. He didn’t molest those kids. But he did have the ability and obligation, as a leader and the face of that university, to take some initiative to ensure his facilities were clean. He didn’t. All of them, from McQueary on up, sat on this without involving who should have been involved. If any of them had done anything, we may not be talking about this now, including how many Sandusky is accused of molesting since 2002. They all failed. You don’t have to agree with the result on their careers, but none of them should be given a pass for this result.
your not understanding. you cant demonize him for not calling the cops. im not saying he isnt guilty, he could in fact be responsible because he could have been fully aware of the situation…
but can you prosecute a man for not calling the police shen the witness himself was a fully functioning adult aand could have called instead?
is what im getting at.
can you really do it?
im all for investigating and following through with said punishment. but im not up for you going to jail and be responsible for not calling the cops because somebody said they saw rape.
You know, this says less about Paterno and more about the institutional power that football programs have over universities. I have heard of football players get away with so much shit and at least one of them getting away with rape so that this happened is fucked up but it shouldn’t surprise me as much as it did. Probably because it was a child being harmed.
I did, and you did not address anything I said, just regurgitated the same idiocy.
For the umpteenth time, McQueary fucked up. That doesn’t mean Paterno didn’t also fuck up. This is not hard to understand. What is hard to understand is how you can resolve this whole imaginary notion of yours that McQueary’s story was “suspicious” with the fact that Paterno went on to hire McQueary as a member of his coaching staff and kept him on for EIGHT FUCKING YEARS. I know I’d be in a hurry to hire people who accuse my friends of raping kids if i didn’t believe them. That there’s good bidness.
Nobody said he was responsible for the rape of the kid. Where are you getting this bullshit from? And he’s not under investigation for “not calling the police.” He, as well as everybody else in power during that situation, is included in an investigation of a possible cover-up. He currently is not under criminal suspicion. If you’re going to be mad, you could at least have a clue what is going on.
Also, it’s not “that kid,” it’s somewhere between 8 and 20, and possibly more. And the “that kid” you’re referring to was the second case involving Sandusky and inappropriate activity with children to arise involving Sandusky.
For some reason you seem to believe that McQueary is not being questioned, based on absolutely nothing. Also, Paterno didn’t get arrested, he got fired. The Trustees felt that Paterno and others knew enough that they could have taken greater action and didn’t, so they fired them, as is their right. Among reasons to fire a football coach, I think “May have helped enable a child rapist to continue preying on children in spite of blatant warning signs” ranks a wee bit higher than “May not have won enough football games.”
So, if a older woman that likes young men is a cougar, is a older man that likes young boys a nittany lion?
Yucky, yucky…bad taste…too soon:nono:
Should have made it Penn15 State.
Man, I am praying the rumors circulating about this now aren’t true.
What are the latest rumors?
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ycn-10407023
Essentially one of the first reporters who began putting the pieces together on this thing back in April when Sandusky first got arrested says there’s an investigation into the possibility of the Second Mile pimping out kids to rich donors.
A great many of my friends go to Penn State, and let me tell you, while they are angry over the situation, they are more upset over Joe Paterno leaving. My dad said “Joe’s probably the most beloved man in that entire state”, and I think that’s an accurate statement.
It’s a real shame they didn’t at least let him have one more game, to give the ending of his career some dignity.
…o_o
He didn’t deserve it.
You mean like he gave that ten year old kid some dignity by reporting it to the police, oh wait.
If a random bum on the street tells me a kid is getting raped around the corner, I call the cops and tell them what the bum told me.
Rumors are one thing, but a known colleague telling him first hand that he saw the rape.
I expect a head coach, if he hears rumors of a rapist child molester in his ranks, to not turn a blind eye or pass the buck.
McQueary, the guys that Paterno reported it to, all need to be fired.
It is the obligation of school officials to make sure that the campus is a safe place.
The sick think is that I hear that coward McQueary is out on a recruiting trip to try to get high school athletes to go to Penn State.
If I had a kid thinking of college and this fucker showed up at my door, I’d tell him, “Get the fuck off my property you enabler of rapists! You had better be gone by the time I get my shotgun!”
Dude on College Football Live just put everyone involved on blast.
What’d he say?