The "Official" SSBM Thread

[System_1]

Yes, EL

[System_1]

Dima=Aesir?

Yeah I thought most people from smashboards knew my name tag guess not T_T;

[EmblemLord]

Why do nigga change thier names at different sites? Just use the same fucking name. >_>

[System_1]

Because I can? o_O when I made the account I didn’t want people to know it was me lol.

[System_1]

If I were you, I wouldn’t want people knowing it was me either

[System_1]

Hey EL, know who I am?

[EmblemLord]

Hell no. >_>

[Violent_By_Design]

I think what Cape is trying to say to you Dima is you should show more respect in your post.

Everyone should remember, we are discussing video games there’s no real reason to be rude about opinions. And even though I completely disagree with his tier listing and don’t see to much reasoning for why their even like that, its not like tier list are in stone.

I remember people (including myself) would get flamed because we said Fox should be higher on the tier list. Smash bro tier change like every year.

[Marty]

That clearly shows me you believe that I think I’m pro at this game or something.

No, it doesn’t. It means that I think you think you know a lot about the game. Which you do.

Yes you do, its not arrogant that I think he should leave the tier making to people who know what they’re talking about. I’m not talking about myself I’m talking about people who know this game inside and out. I wouldn’t even know where to begin in making a tier list.

You’re displaying an overly proud superior attitude to people you deem inferior in their knowledge of smash bros. Hence: arrogant. If you can’t see this, then there’s no hope for you.

Also: You wouldn’t know where to begin making a tier list, yet you can immediately argue the toss about how Mario is better than Pikachu. Interesting.

is gamefaq more right about street fighter then Srk is? lol

Did you read what I said? Clearly not. I said there is no right and wrong when it comes to this sort of thing, so arguably, no, gamefaqs is not more right, they are both equally right.

The relevance of a list is the only thing that changes.

It is based off tourney results that whats its suppose to do, the tier list in melee is suppose to show the current tourney metagame whos winning more often. and it just so happens foxs and falcos do better then any other character

No, it isn’t. Tier list =/= Who’s winning tournaments. There is correlation, but they are not one and the same.

Okay Pikachu has one thing over mario, thats a kill move. However he lacks many other aspects that mario thrives in. for starters marios faster at comboing, he can apply pressure better then pikachu can. pikachu because of his weight allows him to be combo’d rather well, talk to any good sheik they’ll tell you how yummy a pikachu can be. want me to continue? >_>

Hooray! I already know this. Tell the tier list guy.

No I’m not, when it comes to GG I have no idea what I’m talking about.

YES YOU ARE. You’re confusing AUTHORITY with LIBERTY. Nothing is stopping you from saying whatever you want about Guilty Gear.

thats because you have people who think they know things about the game but really their knowledge is very limited. <_<

So that justifies being patronizing little douchebags? No, I don’t think so.

this isn’t the first time I’ve called someone out on their lack of knowledge I do it on smashboards all the time, ever go to the link boards? lol yeah theres a reason I’m like this. <_<

Oh then that makes it all okay. I thought you were new at this or someth-STOP BEING A DOUCHEBAG.

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In fact, forget all that. Just stop being a rude asshole.

[System_1]

Wow am I tired. =(

1. name calling? how mature.
2. I wouldn’t know where to begin because I have no clue how random low tiers do, like when it comes to characters like mewtwo or pichu I’m confused as to what their strengths are cause I’ve never played them characters like mario and pikachu I do because I’ve fuxed around with them. Mario has better match ups thats why I say hes the better character.
   3.I’m displaying an over superior additude? maybe its just because I tend to know what I’m talking about and when I’m explaining myself I tend to be very blunt about it. I’m actually really modest and hate belittling people just so happens I don’t always act this way lol.
3. lemme re-word this, yes I’m at liberty to say what I want about GG however they’re also at liberty to call me an idiot for thinking whatever it is I’m thinking about the game.
4. I’m not being a rude asshole, stop trying to make me out to be one.

[Marty]

1. STYX AND STONEZ BEBE
2. Fair.
3. I know why, but I still argue that it’s unwarranted.
4. True.
5. You’re not. You were in the first instance.

Bah NEW TOPIC

• Doc short hopping to a DF air dodge to an Up-Tilt can be a solid tool against Marth’s fairs.

Discuss.

[BIG_BAD_MOG]

Still waiting for an answer to my question…

[Marty]

I am having trouble getting past Samus’ missles with Peach. Also Falco’s hopping lasers. Is there a way to get past all the projectile spam?

Floating can be useful against Falco because it reduces the amount of times he can actually fire AT you.

As with Samus, I don’t really have enough experience to say. I’d probably use Turnips, because if they’re in a position to fire them off uninterrupted you’re probably in a position to pull up a Turnip. So if at least you aren’t gaining any damage, at least they aren’t either.

[System_1]

A few tips for dealing with Samus’ missiles as Peach:

1. outspam with turnips (like Cape said)
2. float over/under
3. use aerials through them (fair/nair/bair)

btw, Peach IMO is about as even with Falcon, especially in high level play. Each one does better than the other in particular matchups, and Falcon’s awesome speed/offense should always be considered.

[BIG_BAD_MOG]

Wouldn’t using turnips just bring it to a stalemate in a way?

Also whenever I float around, the opponents I face tend to stop and go all jumping air moves on me which sucks. Bair and Nair don’t always snuff them out from what I’ve been doing.

How is floating under missles different from just running at her?

How high should I be floating?

BigRick70: I’m talking about Falco, not Falcon.

[System_1]

Wouldn’t using turnips just bring it to a stalemate in a way?

Also whenever I float around, the opponents I face tend to stop and go all jumping air moves on me which sucks. Bair and Nair don’t always snuff them out from what I’ve been doing.

How is floating under missles different from just running at her?

How high should I be floating?

BigRick70: I’m talking about Falco, not Falcon.

Oh I’m sorry, my mistake… with Samus’ missiles it might be possible that Fair is the only thing that can go through them. I mentioned Bair/Nair also cause they work against most of the other projectiles.

Also, while you’re floating, spacing and timing is very important. Depending on the situation, you go for the counter hit or you simply land.

you could try watching this vid for inspiration… a bit old, but shows what I’m talking about : [media=youtube]_sazQ6YGROM[/media]

For Falco, you either float over the lasers or try to powershield them. Turnips from platforms might harass him a little. That’s the easy part, cause it’s guaranteed that he’ll try to Nair you once you’re in range… again watch your spacing.

btw, the Falcon comment wasn’t adressed to you. it was for that discussion that happened earlier.

[Marty]

Stalemate is better than losing. Anyway, try to pre-empt the missiles, tossing turnips early, it should give you opportunity to dash in sufficiently to stop her long distance tom dickery. In fact (and this applies to a lot of matchups) try to always keep a Turnip at hand, that way, they’ll be less inclined to waste time on their slower missiles.

Regarding Falco: Float two-ish heads higher than Falco’s head height. If that made sense. Try to be subtle with your floating, moving backwards copiously if necessary. After all, the Falco won’t be able to fully safely gain on you, since you’re floating at such an awkward height for him. Again, if you have a Turnip at hand, all the better.

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also, BigRick was addressing an issue from earlier in the thread.

edit: Goddamnit big ricky.

[System_1]

haha I post faster than you.

^^you are the great mario player, I presume

[Marty]

^^you are the great mario player, I presume

Who? Me? I haven’t ever gone by that name. At least not to my knowledge.

[ArC_man]

Who? Me? I haven’t ever gone by that name. At least not to my knowledge.

He thinks your TheCape