I personally could careless about clouds…anytime I see that word, my face squelches up and fears of inconsistency and necessary access pop-up. Yes I was fine with M$ wanting the 24 hour check, but always on is a death kneel. Relying on anything NOT in my presence always works my nerves. My iCloud account is empty outside of the “Apple put this shit here” stuff.
So storage in the cloud? No thank you.
Processing in the cloud? No thank you.
I only want online for Netflix and multiplayer. If I’m not doing those two things, I shouldn’t need to be online for shit.
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I dunno, I get frustrated when people won’t open their eyes and are simply stubborn as fuck, which is what most of what the system fights boil down to.
If the last generation taught me anything its that the market is for the most part homogeneous. 97% of all AAA titles are multi-plat. Those that aren’t have parallel games on the other system. We can talk till we are blue in the face, due to production cost, none of the modern games are going to look any different between the two consoles. You’ll have one game that performs better here another that will perform better there, this game will have an exclusive, this other one will have this mode. It just balances out, it doesn’t “really” matter beyond your friends list.
Yeah we’re basically talking about shit that doesn’t matter until a year or 2 from now. No system launch has ever really dictated what happens in the futur and this launch won’t either. Nobody knew the Wii was going to blow up out nowhere and people originally doubted the PS3’s ability to be anythng other than a cheap blu ray player that didn’t have Halo.
Meh. 1 sounds like its just saying multiplats are gonna be the same. 2 could work out as long as the first party devs and exclusive games get time to learn to make use of it.
Articles like that are retarded for the end user, let alone before the hardware is even finalized. You would be naive if you think that they could ever get all of the power out of a console before it’s even released. There is going to be a learning curve regardless of the hardware. I remember when people said the PS3 Cell was oh so hard to make games for, then like a year or so in we have Uncharted and the games just got better and better looking.
In the end, the majority of respectable developers will get as much out of the console as they can, regardless of how tough it is do get it right. That is how it’s always been and probably always will be. The hardware isn’t like the SNES/Genesis where they had major differences, which is why SF2 looked/sounded totally different on both. These are probably closer in specs than the PS3/360 even are, especially the architecture.
But the armchair developers like to get all in arms about things like this.
Stll do play games. Its just that there are new consolss coming out and you would be an idiot not to know as much about the system as possible before you buy it. Once you do thats what youll probably be playing those games on for the next 5 to 10 years.
The horsepower between the systems is basically an intangible for the next year or 2 and not a great criteria for buying a next gen system on. Especially considering exclusives and the other gadgets and peripherals they provide.
Its still part of the criteria. You try to discount everything that is negative by saying wait a year or two. Thats just silly.
My thing is, it wont take very long for developers to take advantage of the hardware because these consoles are as close to being a PC as they’ve ever been. Thats what these games get developed on, a PC. So games will be dope fast and standardized on botb consoles.
So what now seperates the consoles? What you can do other than game. Cost of entry. Subsciprtion costs. Peripherals.
Remember that this is a discussion thread. Discussions include criticisms. All signs point to the Xbox being considerably weaker than the PS4. If you don’t think that’s worth considering, that’s fine, you might not care. It doesn’t invalidate the problem though. You can’t dismiss something as base to the experience as the performance capability of the box you’re buying.
Like you said, for a year or two you probably won’t even see much of a difference at all but why are you only thinking a year or two ahead? Why draw the line at exactly the time when your argument becomes invalid?
If you guys aren’t going to buy the xbox why are you even in this thread? Are you trying to change our minds in not buying an xbox one? Did you guys constantly go to the Wii thread & talk how low quality the graphics were? Do you go to Wrestling chat thread & discussing how gay it is watching two grown half nekid men toss each other around. Go to the Boxing thread saying boxing is dead why are you still watching?
I dont mind the negative talk about the xbox one but what is your agenda behind it?
At the moment I have no plans to buy either a PS4 or an Xbox One. I also have no interest in wrestling or boxing, thats why I dont go in those threads. My discusio is on topic and I dont feel like going into the playstaion thread to talk about the xbox one.
My agenda is discussion. That encompasses negative, positve and nuetral veiws on the subject.
Why choose one over the other?
Edit - really if I had any positive news or info to post about Xbox One I would, and I woud enjoy talking about it. There really is no good news, mostly bad and some shit that just makes it seem not so bad, but you’re not really sure.
I appreciate the back and forth. It’s much better than the blatant pro system trolling stuff. We have our reasons for getting the system we want and if it’s like any system race, things will get closer as systems release and people see what they want.
Mainly because the games are more important to me than the best specs. Like a game looking slightly better graphically isn’t going to do anything for me. It doesn’t improve the gameplay, it doesn’t make it more fun, fuck that. It’s cute to look at, but in the end the game should be able to pull off an artistic display despite the graphical horesepower behind it. Which there’s too many variables at this point as to which system will truly be more powerful and if we’ll even see a real difference 2 years in (outside of exclusives).
What kind of differences do you think we’ll see? I really dont see graphics as that big of a deal, shit, I game on a PC. I also dont think they can get too much better.
ps3 story was much different than someone just hit a magic light switch and everyone found out how to create games for it. cerny’s team had almost 2 years prior to the systems release to create a graphics engine and tool set for sony proprietary companies to use, so they were incredibly ahead of the game. most other companies struggled mightily with ps3 architecture, and some just flat out refused to do the work themselves (outsource to random company, get shitty port).
truth is, most devs are whiny bitches and primadonnas, and if they get tired of whining about something, they will usually give up. almost every time. this is spoken from experience.
what 3rd parties were forced to do with ps3 was rough for like… 5-6 years. it meant a ton of companies needed to focus more resources than they probably would have liked to address a problem no one really cared to solve. unless someone was beating down on them, the incentive to “get the most” out of the ps3 wasn’t there. most times, ps3 just got the mediocre point, and sony’s first party used their knowledge gap to set themselves apart from almost every other game in the ps3’s library… they were growing and pushing while other developers were just getting caught up.
people tend to think devs just optimize and look to find every possible way to find every nook and cranny to exploit in the architecture. Truth is they are just trying to hit performance benchmarks and deadlines, and most companies never made up the 2 year gap that sony had on their first party projects; they were just trying to get a product out… and guaranteed: devs bitching and moaning the whole way, . something tells me that MS did not have their hardware specs and dev time that sony had with ps3, nor do they have the 1st party devs to make their “uncharted”.
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My thing is, it wont take very long for developers to take advantage of the hardware because these consoles are as close to being a PC as they’ve ever been. Thats what these games get developed on, a PC. So games will be dope fast and standardized on botb consoles.
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Game’s aren’t developed on a PC; they’re developed on system dev kits. Even though the new consoles use x86, it still doesn’t negate the fact that dev kits are handed out.
Sony claims that the PS4 will have its entire disposable available to indie devs, etc etc. But honestly, the big name companies get a better advantage when they receive dev kits. Debugging on a PC with software isn’t easy.
Honestly, when it comes to what we know for sure right now, you’d be a fucking idiot to get the Xbox One over a PS4 or decent PC.
Everyone knows Microsoft has next to no in-house game development studios outside of the modern shit-tier Rare guys. All exclusives games that are on Microsoft systems are moneyhatted by Microsoft then show up a few months to a year later on the PlayStation and PC platforms.