Big ups to Dark geese yo
We’re tryin to keep the KOF XI fire alive out here in Nor Cal
I love this game.Its tooooo good
Glad you guys stipp support KOFXI. I think KOFXI was a good game. IT is good some people still play that game.
They need to add this game to psn/live for a cheap price and add some online play. I would buy it immediately and some people who aren’t interested in kof may buy it as well and those people might buy other kof in the future. Snowball effect.
All KOFXI Casuals between me and MightyMar recently:
http://forums.shoryuken.com/showpost.php?p=7286162&postcount=36
Next time I post up will be probably Monday after I return from Ciudad Juarez, Mexico!
-DG
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Couple of sets between me and my friend.
Turn down your audio if you don’t wanna hear my stick all day, it was right next to the camera.
We’re not as good as DG though.
I have more, just too lazy to upload.
Very high level KOFXI matches from CD. Juarez, Mexico:
To anyone that thinks KGO rule KOFXI please come talk in this thread so I can gladly refute that argument and show you just how well balanced KOFXI is. See the problem is too many people are limited in what they have seen in KOFXI, meaning only the American/Japanese/possibly Euro (who also dont play it much I hear) STYLES and youtube videos so they jump PREMATURELY into believing a certain style is how the game is played when that’s only that way IN THOSE COUNTRIES.
People have to understand that different countries overall play differently, esp. those with strong KOF scenes, they play differently. And this can be clearly seen when comparing Mexican KOFXI style to American/Japanese/mostly Asian style which consists of mainly KGO all the time.
Mexican style you will find the following being used and ranking HIGH in tournaments:
Duo Lon Leader (Without a doubt the deadliest/most damaging Leader in the game)-TOP TIER or S+
Kim: S-
Kyo: S-
Malin: A-, as Leader A+
Duck King: S- as 2p S+
Jyazu: A
Eiji: S-
Gai: A
Adel: A
And I have yet to mention Kula-Gato-Oswald. See this is where the limited POV of seeing just the Japanese and American styles who play with KGO limits what others have seen. Many still have no idea the power of these other players I have just posted above you. Now before you say anything I too was like many of you in this belief that KGO ruled KOFXI PRIOR TO GOING TO MEXICO. After my first trip to Mexico I realized just how ignorant this belief is…so I began educating myself and thus I fell in love with KOFXI and went from LITERALLY HATING THE GAME to loving it due to seeing the variety of playstyles and how competitive you can be with nearly anyone!
YYSU is tied for top 3 in Mexico City, Mexico (in KOFXI) and he and I won KOFXI Teams at EVO and HE WAS USING TIZOC!!! Mexican Style Tizoc caught everyone off guard!
So don’t sit here and tell me KOFXI isn’t well balanced…I have proof of this on my own youtube channel…
DarkGeese. I encourage you to educate yourself and see for yourself that what I speak of IS THE TRUTH.
Knowledge is power.
So if I were to update the tier list since I am one of the FEW IN AMERICA STILL PLAYING THIS GAME HARDCORE (That counts for something, most the people saying KGO rule the game AIN’T PLAYING IT…that makes a huge difference!), It would be like this:
S+:
EX Kyo, Gato, Kula, Duo Lon (L), Oswald, Duck King(2p)
S- But still top tier and can easily take out S+:
Eiji, Kim, Kyo, Duck King
A Class and can take out S Class without a doubt:
Jyazu (Counter Kula), Maxima, Ralf, Clark, Adel, Malin (L), Benimaru, Gai, Geese, K’, Silber
And the rest pretty much includes the others as you have seen them.
So compare this to the Tier list you see in 98UM and the top tier becomes:
S Class:
EX Kyo, Gato, Kula, Duo Lon (L), Kyo, Eiji, Kim, Oswald, Duck King (2p)
That’s 9 people in the top tier compared to what most Americans say is JUST THREE…Take out EX Kyo and you still got Eight!.
-DG
That is very interesting. This opened my eyes to some new things about the game.
I forgot to even add I have seen tournaments in Mexico being won with Ryo and Benimaru Leader! Argentina also has tournaments being won by Vanessa, Ryo, Yuri etc so people just have to understand it’s never as black and white as they make it out to be!
I still play this game on a daily base, one of the best fighters I ever played.
Problem is that noone around here even knows what KoF is, so noone plays it except my friends if I bring allong my Ps2.
Anyway, my team is Ash/Shen/K’ , with K’ being my leader.
K is pretty much A class as well, K Leader is very good, and he’s used a lot in Asian KOFXI match vids. I agree it is one of the best fighters, but I’m not here to convince people to like KOFXI or not, I just want them to see that it is a well balanced game that got a bad rap early because of a “certain predominant style of play” that I have yet to see win tournaments as of late…
-DG
tell you the truth i never played xi because i didnt like how you could swap characters in the middle of the match, that’s the only reason, but i’ve seen some of the vids you posted i think i might give it a try, gonna be kindda hard to catch up on xi and trying to get good at xii, havent played a kof since 2k2
What makes K’ so good? I main K’ in 2k2 and for some reason I haven’t tried him here.
Also, what do you think of Shingo? He’s the character that’s always in my team no matter what year it is.
Kula LDM > Duolon LDM. Not in terms of sheer power considering Duo can kill whatever character he connects it with with ease, but the fact that Kula has about 50 billion ways to BS you into getting hit by it.
I always believed since day one that Eiji and Kim were up there with KGO at the top, as time passed, Duo and possibly Clark as well.
Love the quip about Mexican style Tizoc. My boy Eddie runs that guy, and Tizoc can be a nightmare to deal with if you aren’t prepared for the weird shit he has.
Gai is up there and rightfully so. Stuuuuupid high damage off easy hitconfirms, and one of the best moves in the game (Gai Spider) as well.
Glad to see people still supporting XI as always :lovin:
No love for my girl Liz (L)? Shotgun super punishes jumps, it’s hilarious XD
I wasnt feeling KOFXI until I first went to Mexico like 3 years ago either…so trust me I understand completely…it wasn’t until I saw the many different ways to play the game that I fell in love with it.
He’s more versatile than hes been in the other games…he gains new specials that makes his high low mixup very good. something he didnt have in 2k3. As Leader due to the Juggle Anywhere state this helps K’ as well if you want to use him this way, but K’ takes some work to use effectively…but like ohers it pays off if you master him. People whore KGO more often than not because of simplicity to use, though Oswald isn’t the easiest person to play, and you can easily see amateur Oswalds compared to Expert Oswalds.
About Shingo, Shingo has potential without a doubt but theres other people better than him thats the problem, Kyo is better than him but Shingo has a better LDM so I’d put Shingo with Leader as B.
Agree with Kula’s LDM in regards to versatility. I know this firsthand from playing against Rodo in CD. Juarez, Mexico, the ways Kula can get into her LDM are ridiculous due to what she can do with the Juggle Anywhere state so yes it has more practicality and ease of use. I compare Duo Lon’s LDM to using Angel and May Lee in 2002. In experts hands they are without question top tier, but most people dont learn them that well and stick to ABC just like in KOFXI they stick to KGO, BUT because of this they dont see the others like Vanessa, Angel, May Lee, and plenty others that get used with high frequency that win tournaments in other countries.
Eiji can shut down an entire team by himself and he’s without a doubt Anti Kula. His trapping game is very strong and its like in 98UM where he’s top tier there as well.
Kim is extremely deadly in the right hands but most people around here wont see Kim played at such a high level to understand that. Kim can lockdown almost anyone in the game too…and dont let someone pick Kim Leader, if they are an expert YOU CANNOT JUMP. How I play Kula Leader if I land air 2 air Jump b I get free LDM with Kula so yeah sooo many ways to land it and same with Kim he gets free LDM off so many things its silly.
Yeah YYSU’s Tizoc was just raping people silly on Saturday when he got going, I could tell you were accustomed to playing Tizoc due to your matches with YYSU in the Team tournament.
JeremyH- Elizabeth I’d put her as B Class, she’s got some glaring holes, but based off what I’ve seen from Rodo’s Elizabeth combined with RJ’s, I’d say with Leader she has potential to be A- or A+ jury is out…
Ok I see Duck King (2P) as S+ Tier, mind if you could shed some light on that?
As a glitch 2p Duck King has more frame advantage than 1p Duck King, and I just recently remembered that because the times Duck King gave me mad problems (vs. Mr. KOF at EVO World in Singles Winners Finals etc and vs. Kane9999 in CD. Juarez, Mexico) Duck King was 2p, so I forgot, some of the strings I am used to interrupting if I am 2p I cannot interrupt if Duck King is 2p due to the extra frame advantage 2p Duck King gains just being on that side alone.
Yeah crazy I know so that makes fighting an expert 2p Duck King a royal pain in the ass because he can just lock you down and very little you can do to interrupt it unless you are reading his patterns, but if you block too long you’ll eat a slide karacancelled Break Spiral so yes Duck is without a doubt top tier…
-DG
in italy (a small crew, about 5 friends) we still play it and think is far way better than xii or other game around, other than the different ways of play, we think xi system is very gorgeous, the potential of switch/tag for a counter pick or simply for a stun/combo with enough meter (and is the right moment for doing that)… is indeed awesome.
it’s ruined only by some SICK damage “random” output, i mean the huge difference without reason from dm and dm (buster wolf’s terry, dm mary… compared to K’ CH heat drive, etc) who truly penalize some character than other and unbalance a little the roster.
just wondering, we play in the arcade “perfect” system, the arranged one fix some bug (like oswald free ace on entry) and other thing but we don’t like it. someone play on arranged or everyone stick with the arcade one?
Arcade is still standard, people tried arrange when it came out, but I’m pretty sure the current verdict is Arcade + Console chars, with Magaki and Shion banned.
Yeah, I can see how the high output can mess up some things considering uncomboed DMs like say from anti-air do a ton of damage, and LDMs can be ridiculous (hello Gato, Adel, Mary), but honestly it forces people to play better, and a whole lot smarter and safer when the opponent is sitting on those two meters… Though judgement can make it reaaaaally hectic at times, heh.