The mma thread. UFC Fight island is real: Everybody died

[dab00g]

If you like kung fu movies you should like pro wrestling

[Sexperienced]

If you read what I wrote I was comparing on screen martial artist to each other, not MMA fighters or boxing champions. The only genuinely proven on-screen fighter that I know of was Benny “the Jet” Urquidez. To me Kungfu movies died out in the early 2000’s.

[crucades]

Benny is the GOAT fighter. He would defo dominate mma if he was in his prime.

[maxx]

lol benny would fuck niggas up.

[Darc_Requiem]

Damn you guys bringing me back with all this talk of Benny.

[maxx]

just go the wonderboy route and teach him anti-wrestling techniques. bennys kicks are 100x better than wonderboys and wonderboy made it to #1 contender.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds5oPdeKq00

[Wasted]

Jesus fuck, that liver kick at 1:59

[Gimpy]

Benny was a fucking savage.

[odin]

I first learned about Benny in a Street Fighter the Movie magazine I got when I was young.
Good dude.

[dab00g]

There was something grittier about boxing and kickboxing in the seventies/eighties

Just the way guys competed just seemed harsher

Where as nowadays it’s guys knowing the other guy has to make a living

Though you still got dicks like palhares

Or you have guys like kovalev with the “if he dies he dies” mentality

[crucades]

Its that throw he uses to wreck the dude at 2:20 its just so damn beautiful.

[Pablo_the_Mex]

IMO shootbox should be a real thing in the US by now. A promotion that has shootbox and old school rules like Pancrase (rope breaks) would be money.

[dab00g]

Rope breaks made me think pancrase was like wcw back in the day

Are palm strikes allowed in mma? Because palm strikes are allowed with ground striking

But in close quarters a good palm strike will wreck your shit

[CUTWEST]

In other news. Jon Jones is clean…ish
http://i.imgur.com/smEWNRz.jpg

EDIT:

Jonny Bone haters can resume damage control.

[axeman61]

Wait a minute… how does he not pass and then pass? I’m ignorant to how testing works, but help me out here. Were there different samples taken, where he pissed hot before (and that’s what got reported), but had clean blood the night of the match?

If I’m right, does that even mean anything? Maybe some steroids are detected better in urine than in blood.

[dab00g]

Different blood samples. Collection errors. The billionaires now in charge paying off usada.

[maxx]

theres apparently a type of drug thats super temporary…like its only in your system within hours. shaub talked about it on his podcast as well as joe rogans. more or less that shit is a fuckin senzu bean…makes you super agro and pumped up

[Darc_Requiem]

Apparently Jones passed all of his random blood and urine tests. He failed the pre-fight screening. That’s right, he failed the test he knew was coming. Seems a bit weird but what isn’t with Jones.

[Shin_Akuma]

Bruce Lee was an actor not a fighter

http://www.bruceleedivinewind.com/joelewis.html

Joe Lewis - I learn fast. I made black belt in one year in Okinawa in three different styles. I am a fast learning. I can get all your stuff in a matter of weeks, and I mean anybody who can fight. I worked with Bruce less than two years before we grew apart. We used to work together for 6 to 8 hours at a time. I would be at his house at one in the afternoon, and not leave until maybe ten that night. Is that one lesson? Bruce was not a fighter. He was an actor and a teacher. He was a great teacher.

http://defend.net/deluxeforums/forum/martial-arts/jeet-kune-do-discussion-forum/7039-bruce-lee-vs-joe-lewis

In several interviews, Joe Lewis vehemently states that Bruce Lee was not a REAL fighter, but an actor… In one such interview, Black Belt Magazine, Lewis even suggests that he was a better fighter. Now it’s hard to believe that a fighter would go train under an actor, let alone one he could beat up…

Lewis seems to be still sulking after his missed opportunity in “Way of the Dragon,” in which he was chosen to play Bruce’s adversary, but due to his pride or supposed illness, skipped out. Chuck Norris took the part and the rest is history.

Was Bruce Lee a legitimate fighter? He was certainly a legitimate street fighter and that’s what JKD is based on… For a guy who has trained world champions, I’d say Bruce Lee was legitimate. Even Bob Wall, Chuck Norris among others have admitted that had Bruce Lee wanted, he could have easily been the top tournament fighter… But tournament fighting was useless to Bruce… It did nothing for him except contradict his ideas.

Many of Bruce Lee’s stunt men were professional fighters and all acknowledge that Bruce would have taken anyone… Ed Parker once mentioned that Bruce challenged the entire world, but no one responded, but for that reason, he was training for the ultimate fight. People who knew Bruce Lee say that the only thing Bruce feared was a bigger version of himself.

According to Bruce’s notes, he sparred in realistic fashion with the likes of Mike Stone, Chuck Norris and Joe Lewis all the time… If Joe felt that he was better, why did he continue under Bruce Lee’s tutelage? There’s really no credibility to Joe’s statements, after the fact…

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Bruce Lee is the biggest hoax ever. Show me footage of Bruce Lee legitimately fighting someone.

This is pretty much the closest thing you’ll get to a “real fight”. But really, it’s more of a spar than anything. This right here is pretty much the only footage you’ll see of Bruce fighting in a non movie setting.

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cT_u7CiSJU

He’s a skilled martial artist no doubt, but most of what he contributed was philosophy, not competitive fighting.

Correct on the bold part - but there are reasons for that. Bruce didn’t care for competitive fighting because it wasn’t REAL fighting. Competitions or “competitive fighting” isn’t REAL fighting. There are rules. Bruce did not like the fact that he would be constrained in a competitive setting. He did not like the fact that there were rules - period - because in a REAL fight - there are NO RULES. EVERYTHING GOES.

http://www.bruceleedivinewind.com/joelewis.html

Joe Lewis - Bruce told me he did not care about competing. He had no interest in it, and he said he felt there was nothing to gain by him doing so.

http://dannylane.com/Bruce_Lee_Guide.pdf

INOSANTO: People ask ‘Why, if he had this interest in boxing didn’t he become a professional fighter?’ Boxing was not a totality - just as wrestling and Karate are not totalities. For Bruce to have gone into professional boxing would be like asking a chess champion to participate in a checkers tournament. It’s a different realm. Boxing wasn’t his game. Although he was an excellent boxer and he felt there was alot of merit in it, there were still some things wrong with the art…

JKD was designed and to be utilized in a REAL street fight setting where there are no rules. As such, Bruce did not enter tournaments or fight professionally because if he did, he could not “fully express himself”. That is to say he couldn’t use every technique or weapon at his disposal. This would include eye pokes/gouging, biting or attacks to the groin. People may call ths “dirty fighting”, but in a REAL fight situation, fighting dirty is irrelevant. You can see that he tried to portray this aspect of “dirty fighting” in his movies.

Spoiler

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BdthJG_jDMQ

To sum it all up, this video pretty much nails it as to why Bruce never felt the need to compete in tournaments. Excuse the unnecessary music.
"When I say Bruce was a fighter, I’m not saying that he was a good tournament fighter, I’m saying I’ll put him against anybody, any weight division, any size, any background and I’ll put my money on it…"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWvlOjKE9x0
https://www.thetoptens.com/best-martial-artists/