The MMA Thread. BJ Penn Didn't Die #HeDeadThough

One word replies will get you an infraction. Especially since it adds nothing to the conversation. (Read the stickies) I know you’re probably pretty ignorant about MMA, but at least TRY to type something substantial if you disagree with my points. If not, just move on, instead of trolling like an idiot.

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Really? Crocop cut? Didn’t he only lose 2 fights? His name should give him more wiggle room to begin with… plus this fight was competitive i thought.

People didn’t hate on Ali when he started CORRECTLY PREDICTING the rounds he was going to knock fuckers out in.

(In no way or shape was I comparing Jon Jones to Ali. Comparing Michael Jordan to Ali is just a slap in the face of Ali’s greatness)

This is fucking stupid. Some people consider Sugar Ray Robinson > Ali. Actually most list has Sugar Ray as #1 and Ali as #2.

The only people that have Michael Jordan as #2 are Lakers and Boston fans, and most of them have Jordan as #1 as well. It just a tiny small ass percentage of them that doesn’t think he is the greatest in his sports.

Learn what you’re talking about before you speak son.

Examples (simple 5 second google search)

ESPN - http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing/greatest/featureVideo?page=greatest110
ABOUT.COM - http://boxing.about.com/od/history/a/50_greatest.htm
Hubpages.com http://hubpages.com/hub/Top-Ten-Greatest-Boxers-of-All-Time

Now go find me a list where MJ is not #1 in the NBA.

Pele vs Mardona (soccer) is a good comparison for Ali and Robinson.

Jordan has no equal in his sport.

Ali, there is no comparison, he transcends the sport.
Outside the ring, boxing has no comparison. For fucks sake, they are having Ali go to Iran to get some Americans hostages out of there.

Muhammad Ali to Iran: Free hostage hikers | Off the Bench
Jordan will never be on that level, neither will any other boxer.

Rampage vs Jones will be nothing similar to Rua vs Jones. Rampage only needs ONE shot to end a fight. Dude still is the hardest hitting fighter in the LHW, not to mention…that nigga got a chin made out of fucking GRANITE.

That being said. Rashad is probably the easiest person to counter pick Jones. Rashad is a better wrestler, he has a better gas tank…and that nigga is quiiiiiick. Plus Rashad has screaming wife assist. That shit is like Morgan Assist, givin that nigga constant meter.

Machida would not beat Jones. Range is too great. You know who I think would give Jones absolute hell? Believe it or not…I say the King Mo would give Jones absolute hell.

Plenty of players transcended sport. If there was no fucking Hank Arron home runs wouldn’t be so loved. If there wasn’t no jackie robinson there probably be even less black people in baseball. If there was no Vince Lombardi there probably be a lot less toughness in football. If there wasn’t any Red Auerbach there be a lot less chemistry in basketball. If there wasn’t no Michael Jordan basketball players wouldn’t rule the fucking list of most profitable athletes. I’m sure Gretzky transcended hockey and some other white guys (lol). Pele for soccer. Did you forget that Soccer is the #1 sport WORLDWIDE. You want to take a guess at #2? Transcendent has be done a lot brother.

Look at the top 50 in earnings.

2010 Fortunate 50 - SI.com

Count how many basketball guy there are.

Then look at how their money comes in. As you can see most of the top guys are via endorsement and the bottom guys are via salary.

You want to give a fucking guess who boost both those figures by over 300%?

Now look at when was boxing created, to when was basketball created (the year) then look at the growth (percentage wise), and now look at current and tell me what you fucking see.

You want to take a look at NIKE worth prior and after Jordan? Fuck you don’t even have to. Just take a walk into the hood. Niggas living on food stamps yet rocking Jordan shorts, shoes, and even fucking slippers. Black kids today aren’t growing up saying “i want to become a boxer” anymore. Maybe in Mexico, but that is about it.

You going to tell me you can’t compare a guy that is unanimous #1 to a guy that is ***arguably ***#1?

Sugar said it’s a slap in the face to even COMPARE the two. I’m not arguing Jordan > Ali. I’m saying you’re fucking stupid if you don’t think they are even comparable.

I’m curious, for what reasons do you think Machida could beat Jones? You know me, I’m like Ultimate Machida Fan person… but I feel like Jones would outreach/outpower Machida.

hot news on the street…rashad has left team jackson! black on black crime part 2 is on!!!

ufc basically has a new 3 losses in a row and your cut rule.

I’m Jones-neutral, though a big WTF at him ratting on people who smoke bud, that shit just ain’t cool at all.

IMO the only way Jones gets beat now is because of his youth/inexperience or by luck. I don’t see anyone overpowering him or outwrestling him. I only see Rashad winning because Jones gets too flashy with a spinning whateverthefuck and gets caught.

huh, why you linking that to my comment?

Linking without context makes sad panda sad.

dude needs to stick to robbers and leave weed smokers alone, not like they’re gonna hurt anyone.

Jones also makes rashad look like a little boy. Rashad won’t beat jones.

Rashad sounded PISSED! I really wanna know what’s good behind the “I’m done with Jackson’s Camp”.

Rashad probably gave up the best edge he had to fight Jones. I guess he’ll have to train at Tri Star now.

CroCop has only won 2 fights in the Octagon I think??

He hasn’t looked well either

^CC’s record in the UFC is 4-5…as much as it pains me to say, he needs to hang em up.

Cro Cop should have been cut long ago, I only remember 1 win of his which should have been a loss.

That was one mean KO, I thought Cro Cop was knocked out by his head hitting the canvas OUCH

Well done Jones, that was a very impressive display of talent. Screw Rashad, Jackson should boot him from the camp :rofl:

I don’t see Machida in anyway winning against Jones. I’m sure Jones is more than capable of keeping up with his footwork, Shogun didn’t have much trouble (both times he fought him). Rashad vs Jones willl be an interesting match up, Rashad has the explosiveness to close distance and swam Jones, but still see Jones walking away with the belt. As for Rampage, if he hasn’t improved on his footwork Jones will destroy him like he just did to Shogun.

This would have been one of the best UFC events if it weren’t for Rogan’s see through black shirt, ever time he turned to face the camera you got a flash of his left nipple.

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lol@ GSP nervous laugh at Rogan’s joke about him being naturally greasy :lol:

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I’ll chime in here: Jordan vs Ali

Also I don’t see Rashad being a better wrestler I mean looking at Ryan Bader. Jones is just too big look he man handles people and tosses them around. I almost give Rashad no chance in the striking but hey you never know. Machida I don’t see doing it he hasn’t looked that good anyway since his little run. I think he has been downloaded Shogun put out the blue print. I would honestly say Shogun is his worst threat and look what just happened.

I don’t get how people are calling Jones arrogant. Why because he said he thought he was gonna win? Shouldn’t he be doing that anyway? LOL at him being worse than Mir, Frank Mir’s up in there talking about yanking limbs off and breaking necks killin people, Jones is just like hell yeah I think I’m gonna win, why shouldn’t I? Y’all are just mad salty because another one of your little Pride heroes lost.

And Rashad doesn’t have much of a chance vs Jones, I don’t think. Even Rock’s intense bromance with Rashad won’t be enough to inspire the victory, unless Rashad is THAT MUCH better of a wrestler than Jones and I’m not seeing it. But I think the range and speed of Jones is just too much for anyone at that weight class. Anderson poses an interesting matchup if he can stay off his back. That’s about it, as far as I can see. And we haven’t even touched the fact that Jones has considered moving to HW at some point in his career. And how big can he get if he does? His most interesting fights are already outside of the weight class, and he’s only been training a few years? That’s just sick.

EDIT: And what’s all this Ali v Jordan stuff? Sugar Ray Robinson is still the greatest boxer of all time, last I checked. Ali just brought more hype, more known in the mainstream. Shit one look at Fight Night will tell you that lmao, I think Sugar Ray has instant KO’d me every fucking time I fought that dude. Mans is like every SNK boss rolled into one.