Noob Question: How do I do a safe Tortilla as opposed to a normal one? I see the name thrown around a lot but I’ve never known how to execute it. I also see Tortilla attempts all the time from better Fuerte players so I’m guessing they are doing to safe version
from what I’m told
“That’s common sense” and doesn’t need to be explained.
too bad.
Can we please update the combo section with some more combos? We have more than this:
:hp:xx:qcf::lp::lp:,:hp:xx:qcf::lp::lp:,:hp:xx:qcf::lp::lp:,:hp:xx:qcf::lp::hk:
:d:+:mk:xx:qcf::lp::lp:,:d:+:mk:xx:qcf::lp::lp:,:d:+:mk:
And this:
:r:+:mk:,:lp:,:lp:,:lp:,:lk:,:mk:
EDIT: Also, against Cammy. LK Quac’ing Hooligan is not a 100%. I have been thrown out of LK Quac. Timing was weird but it has happened a time or two.
Safe tortillas are tortillas that are timed and spaced in such a way that they stuff all non-ex reversals (best used against uppercuts) on your opponents wake-up. In the case that they use an ex-reversal, you’ll land behind them for a punish.
In vanilla, you could stuff three-frame uppercuts using safe tortilla, but in super, you generally land behind the uppercut, despite using safe tortilla. I’ve only managed to stuff Akuma’s and Cammy’s uppercuts with safe tortilla in super, not Ryu or Ken’s uppercuts. Still, landing behind the opponent is better, since you can go int a more damaging punish.
The timing for safe tortilla in super used to be three dashes towards the opponent (after a successful tortilla), then run back tortilla from a moderate distance whilst holding all the way back.
Paper made a good thread explaining the exact distances with diagrams, but as you can see from his post, some people told him it didn’t need explaining, so I think he deleted it.
Which was a great thread and bullshit deletion is bullshit.
I’ve done it before on the shoryuken before. But as funny as it is, I usually don’t pay much attention to whether or not my tortilla is safe which is probably a bad idea on my part I guess but I think when using a tortilla you should concern yourself more on how you use it to mix things up than whether or not it’s safe.
Not just no. HELL no. The Tortilla was weakened as opposed to it’s amazing prowess in Vanilla, you have to be more accurate with it in Super, it does less damage, and it doesn’t beat Ryu’s uppercut, or Ken’s Super (and sometimes even Ken’s Ultra 1) anymore. throwing a willynilly Tortilla without it being safe is ASKING Ryu to Ultra you into oblivion.
Making a Tortilla Safe or Unsafe should be a part of your mixup…
Oddly enough, I have wiffed over a number of shoryuken’s with my tortilla. Not exactly sure if this is because they timed it incorrectly or whatever, but I don’t really think your statement is proven.
Yeah, fault me for that. Safe tortilla’s are relatively important. But I don’t think just spamming them or using them predictably will help either. It’s better to know when to use them in a good mix-up as far as I’m concerned.
That’s unfortunate, can’t see why people would see that as useless info but thanks for the tips anyway, I’ll see if I can get a feel for it when I come up against flowcharts
I felt that the thread was over complicating what is just proper spacing.
Yes and no. For someone that knows how to safe Tortilla it was commonsense but for a new El Fuerte any information to help speed along their learning is always a good thing.
It’s not easy to explain spacing without diagrams, especially if you don’t want to look predictable with the triple dash into safe tortilla.
I don’t think he over-complicated it anymore than people seem to over-complicate the RSF. Yet, there’s still a colossal thread on that.
Dont’ know why he deleted it common knowledge or not it was still a useful reference =/
Every single reply to that thread said it was “useless” and was “taking up space”
I will teach fuertes in real life, but never again will I waste my time posting threads for you people. Kai had the right idea when he turned his back on this forum and never looked back.
fucking ingrates.
WOW. Way to completely piss off everyone in one post. Yeah, I wasn’t willing to help you with screenshots and whatnot or anything. :shake:
Thanks man, seems like U1 is indeed not dead, and I should start using my brain on deciding to use the right ultra for the right match instead of blindly relying on U2 for all matchups. I know I am going to cry a bit every time I see its nerfed damage though T_T
@Paper that was wayyyy uncalled for.
@The ultra discussion - If I were to blind select an ultra I would still choose U2.
lol paper is mad for no reason. be more mature man, gotta call people on a forum ingrates, sad.
but yeah, guys imma make a new vid soon. chances are the vid is gonna be on my blackberry lol. so that quality isnt gonna be that great, but its gonna show some cool stuff.
c’mon guys keep it friendly, Fuerte doesn’t approve of hate 
we are all here to help each other out, so let’s remain focused on that goal and not let our differences/opinions get in the way.
@sPaB: cool, looking forward to the vid.
I don’t know, but I just think that you just gotta have a feel for the spacing and that comes with practice. As for RSF, even though I haven’t gotten past two and a slide, I think it’s best to just add one Fierce at a time. Baby steps.