I don’t know… I mean from a business point, David Stern has been a pretty successful comissioner. I just wanted the Pacers to stop winning at the end of the year so they would have a better chance at the John Wall sweepstakes but those rejects finally learned to put a ball in a basket… so frustrating…
Denial.
I see it.
No denial… just truth my friend. I ALWAYS speak truth. Gotta speak truth to power.
Although I’d definetly put you guys up there for beating us in some form of cross country skiing…
Algarve Cup 2010 1 May.
Sweden VS USA.
Women’s Soccer.
We beat you last year.
Let’s see what happens this time.
Sorry, the only Soccer game that matters is World Cup Soccer and Olympic Soccer…
Sure it is.
Although i will admit you MIGHT maybe have a chance in women’s soccer.
US Men’s soccer (football) is no good. We might get out our pool this year only because we got a great draw. The only good team in our Pool in England and I think (I’m ready for the hate here…) they’re a little overrated. Push me to pick a winner? I’ll still take England but I wouldn’t be surprised if we see an England / US Draw and if the US wins… oh man, the Daily Telegraph, the Independent, the FT, the Tabloids… there will be a feasting of the English National Team…
You should have seen when Man United lost to some random team (Everton) and got knocked out of the FA cup.
The tears and whining… it was delicious.
See? That’s what I’m talkin’ about. That’s reason enough to cheer for the US against England in South Africa 2010…
Of cousre… while we’re on the talk of crazy hypotheticals… if / when the United States ever wins the World Cup, I’m pretty sure every soccer! (football…) fan in Europe will committ a mass ritual suicide… it’s bad enough that their game is hijacked by Brazil… but if the US became the world champion in their sport… THAT would be delicious!
Oh for the record now, we’ve went from Mars obit, to not Mars obit, to GGPO vs. XBL to insightful commentary on VFF and why he hates (his) life to attempt to bring back thread to awesome talk of really cool math to Knicks / Pacers / Bulls to World Cup Soccer. Thread derailment lives on…
You guys will win the World Cup the day Sweden beats you in Pussified Rugby aka American Football. 
Oh wow, you just went there? Really? You just went after American football? I mean, no offense, we can talk about ‘rugby’ but you’re average American Football player would eat your average rugby player FOR LUNCH AND DINNER and still need a snack. Football good sir, is an amazing team sport of intelligence, strategy, and remarkable athleticism.
I mean really, Zangief is barely big enough to be a starting lineman in the NFL nowdays… and T. Hawk really missed his calling, he should have tried to play in the NBA.
Sure they would.
If they had the balls to get near them knowing they wouldn’t have all of that padding and armor to protect them 
Which is also the reason why they hit so “hard”.
Speaking of having balls: [media=youtube]Nmy6OaZEAhE[/media]
[media=youtube]tdMCAV6Yd0Y[/media] I just love watching and hearing them do this. So awesome.
Okay… seriously… come on. Take you’re guys doing the Haka (very cool by the way), and take a look at you’re average offensive lineman in the NFL… Heck, I know punters and kickers more physically intimidating.
Rugby is a fine sport, but its got nothing on American football… not by a long kilometer. I’ll tell you what. If you ever come to the states, I live not too far from the Indianapolis Colts training facility. I’ll take you in there, we’ll let you put on some pads, and I’ll have Bob Sanders line up and hit you and we’ll see how good you feel after that.
And when you’re body is more broken than SF4 Vega after a meeting with Sagat… we’ll talk about who hits ‘hard.’
NOTE FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES: Please friends observe what is going on here. This is what we call friendly banter, a casual back and forth designed for the entertainment for both parties. There’s no animosity, just fun and differences of opinions. This DOES NOT include a hate filled rage fest where I call his parentage into question, or smack talk his entire country, or call him some type of homosexual eptiteph because he plays Vega… none of that. There are some people who could learn what this means.
With all those pads ?
I wonder how you would fare getting tackled by a Pro Rugby player without anything to protect you
Besides that:
I don’t see that much difference once you disregard all the padding the Americans have.
Man the difference is in the bodies! Are you kidding me? I can envision the football players without pads on (heck I know Colts players and see them fairly often), the rugby guys are in good shape. The NFL guys are MONSTERS. #22 in that picture is Brandon Jacobs, take off his pads and he will STILL run over that poor rugby guy. It’s just not the same level of athlete. If those guys played Soccer, the US would win world cups.
So we’re clear, I’m a economics professor who values his physical body far too little and is not in great shape. If a rugby guy ran over me, that would hurt. If Brandon Jacobs ran over me… I’d be dead. You have to imagine, during the average play in American Football, at the point of impact in an open field tackle can be upwards of over 1000 lbs. of force. Even with pads… I mean that’s like being hit by a small car while moving.
There will always be people who are larger than others.
For instance:
http://www.ksbudowlani.com/galeria/senior/pudzian1.jpg
<— Badass old guy.
Blasphemy! It’s all about the clubs! Champions League and Libertadores. Any soccer fan would rather have their club winning one of those two tournaments and the world championship any day instead of having the national teams take the world cup. Fuck, just the continental cups would do, or a national, in case it is a traditional country. The world cup is the main show, no questions asked, but real soccer takes place in club tournaments.
I just gotta post [media=youtube]h93_rIqn5rQ"[/media]. Sorry, I can’t help.
Well I do admit I come from a biased US perspective, particularly on soccer.
Sorry Shari, you know I got the most respect for ya man, but its got to be the law of averages. All those guys in your pictures look like your average lineman in the NFL and there’s a whole lot more linemen like that than there are rugby players… but we can agree to disagree on that and further derail this thread a different way.
All this talk about football just reminded me of the Detroit Lions. Thanks guys.
We still have the Wings.