I guess you’re not aware of human limitations
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This is just a question I have in general as it is something I have seen a few times back when my town had an arcade. But does anyone ever play as the low tiers on purpose to either just show off how well they know the game engine overall or to give a handicap to make an otherwise uneven match (in terms of skill) more even?
I agree with Darkgeese…play with whoever you like if they feel natural to you when you play them (something I’ve ALWAYS done)…but as it was also said here…know what the hell you’re getting yourself into when you choose who you choose…like when my homeboy Jim (CrackaJ) and I played KoF XI for the first time…we wound up discovering the top tier characters by accident. He used Kula and Gato because they felt right to him…and somehow they wound up being top tier. Same happened when I picked up Oswald…Tiers had nothing to do with that…he just felt right. (no, I’m not arguing anyone’s point here…)
I agree with this to an extent, but you can only get so good with said low tier character, thats why they are low tier, it may take you longer to click with a high tier character, but in the end, it is worth it, because you will get more wins using that high tier character once you have learned them to the extent that you learned the low tier character.
From a spectator’s perspective, I enjoy watching low-tier character battles a bit more than top-tier battles, if only for the fact that you get a bit more variety. I mean, I do enjoy watching 3S tournaments in their entirety, but when 80% of the battles are Ken/Chun/Yun, it all starts to bleed together. Not only that, but when someone picks a low-tier character, I inevitably find myself rooting for that player, just for the whole “can he do it?” aspect. And seriously, who didn’t enjoy the hell out of that Kuroda (Q) vid? Remember, this is just from a viewer’s perspective.
As far as playing preferences, I agree with the majority here when I say pick the character that suits your style. For example, I’m a horrible 3S player, but for whatever reason I like playing Hugo best. That’s probably not going to help my W-L record as much as if I studied Yun 24/7, but I just don’t feel as comfortable playing with other characters as I do with Hugo. And even when I’m losing with him, I’m having more fun than when I’m winning with the others (which isn’t very often!). Go figure.
does alex considered low tier in 3s ?
then post some alex vids ! XD !
I’m starting to doubt myself again. I had been using Ryu in 3s for a while, but then I started becoming too predictable and started losing a lot more. I switched back to my all-time SF favourite Ken, and immediately improved a lot! My performance just changed. I went from the cautios style I had with Ryu to a more gung-ho approach, and it immediately paid dividends. I don’t know now whether I should still play as Ryu. I feel I’ve sorta stagnated with him. I’m thinking about learning at least one non-shoto that isn’t Chun-Li or Yun. Who should I try?
Urien.
Is he easy to learn? I was thinking about Yang and Alex, but if he’s an easy enough character then I might as well!
IIRC Alex was at the top of the bottom Tier in 3rd Strike so that makes him Bottom-mid tier.I saw a really nice Alex players named Zangoefu.
haha Urien is like Honda, only with less clothes.
I’m pretty sure that this was a joke. I love Urien, but in 3S it is just to hard to win with anyone who isn’t top tier. It is probably the most polarized game I’ve ever played. Don’t get me wrong Urien is great, but Ken is much easier to use and win with. Ken’s probably the easiest of the tops to learn, though each of the characters has advantages. You only have to link a move or two with Chun and Makoto to do serious damage, and Yun can beast with endless juggles. But Urien… he works for his wins. Fun but work.
KSK is obviously the other big Alex player.
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh…I take it you’ve somehow managed to avoid playing MvC2, then? Compared to most fighting games, 3S is just about the LEAST polarized. There are only two charaters in the game that don’t see play (Sean and Twelve).
I would learn Yang.Easy as fuck to use.
Urien is variable for the most part I guess.There are some thing’s that could help you such as partitioning and buffering which is still a concept I haven’t totally grasped yet that is an important part of his game at higher levels.
He is fun to play with,but he is a charge character(Although stronger than most charge characters)so it takes work,but he is fun to use.On a higher level if Urien manages to get you in a Chariot tackle juggle you might as well kiss that round goodbye :wasted:
I’d say that Urien and Remy take the most work to play at a semi-decent level. However, Yang is certainly easy to play, as are Gouki and Alex.
OK. QUICK FIX HERE.
You may all read my “low tier fury” meaning “tiers that are low in comparison to the god tier”. So War Machine appears as often as Ryu in finals ort videos, and that’s why they’re there.
Most people complain that Marvel is all abouit 4 characters, or 3rd Strike is all about 3. War Machine and company go against that view.
So you’re basically saying that Soomighty, Matrix and the others completely suck, even when the community knows that they are clearly better than their opponents?
And you’re missing the point. So what if you consider Anakaris or whatever middle tier? This is not what people complain about. People complain about the top 4. I can change the therad to “the low and middle tier fury” and your argument is over.
I agree with everything else you said, except this. Example: Chun is conmdiered lower than Yun, but for most players she is easier to use. In the same way, a very offensive player (like Valle) will be more comfortable playing Ken, and a very defensive (like Wong) will feel better playing Chun.
Some in MvC2. Its easier to get decent with Cable than Sentinel. But if you reach Sanford’s level, its easier to win with Sent. Either way, some guys feel more comfortable with other characters (like MSP players or Duc)
I suppose you can find players much better than Wong, Xecutioner, Matrix and Soomighty on You Tube , right? And without the top 4 as well…
I am pretty sure Preppy has a few good Spiderman videos, but you’ll need to use Direct Connect to get them.
I guess what I mean is that 3S has like 17-19 characters, and 3 are top in America, Makoto is top in Japan, and only a couple of other characters see serious play. It’s pretty bad if nearly half the cast is not used seriously, or not viable to be used in tournies.
I just realized that this may not be clear. What I really mean is that I see 3S as more polarized because of the top 3 AND the fact that it is a 1 on 1 game. Team games feel more free to me because you can change out 1 character and the team acts way different.
I don’t play much MVC2, I’m a CVS2 guy, and even the awful characters in CVS2 can be made ok with work and support from other characters and grooves.
I would also say Twelve takes a ton of work (probably more than those that you’ve mentioned) to play well enough to beat good players. And in matches against Q, forget about it, you need to hit that guy like 10000 times to win a round. Just watch Yamazaki matches from KSK ranbats to see what I mean, that guy is a beast with Twelve, plays him like Mag compared to other 3S characters.
Yun, Chun, Ken, and Makoto are all top tier, and using one instead of the other doesn’t affect your overall chances a whole lot. You have pretty much all the character archetypes in there, and whether you wanna be offensive or defensive, play a zoning game or a guessing game, poke or grapple, you can do it with the top tier. I was talking about using a low tier instead of top tier, and maybe I should have said Chun instead of Yun; Remy is a runaway/zoning character, and Chun is a top tier version of that.
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