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god I’m dying laughing reading all of these Terrible-Mediocre Resident Evil 6 reviews. Is it really that bad?

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I’m not even going to waste time actually reading that moronic garbage article. Rell told me what it said. That’s why my only remaining ties to this fg scene is you all, TTT2, and other players. Fuck what this entire community has become. I don’t even mind the people that just do combos and upload them to youtube. At least they have a brain or actually touch whatever game they’re talking about. I just fucking loathe newer players who don’t touch game and instead ask the most vague, unspecific, and wtf questions, wishing to be spoonfed some enchanted remedy that will allow them to become successful instantly.

I try to help you guys but I’m fed up with that shit. Because if I tell other motherfuckers to just play the goddamn game first THEN ask SPECIFICALLY what they’re having an issue with, I get called a bad guy, insensitive, or elitist.

And so I guess the idiot that wrote that article wanted Namco to make DLC “skill” available online for purchase. Oooh God, lazy whiny scrub bitch newbreed has fully taken over. This why I’m getting out of this shit before I have an irl run-in with one of these entitled noobs and they say the wrong thing. Forums and FB e-courage is enough. What’s worse is that this severe dependency is actually being ENCOURAGED.

It’ll be a cold day in hell before I let one of you pressure me into creating an elaborate special video dedicated only to you on how to EWGF and then the next day it’s taunt cancel and the next day it’s flaps and the next day it’s isw, etc. The trend being different characters everyday and your punk ass hasn’t accomplished shit, not even basic fundamentals. Only wanting to know highly technical character specifics SOLELY FOR THE SAKE OF CONVERSATION. Then when other people get irritated as well and tell you to sit down and start actually learning a character, you try to perfect the most advanced shit for all of 30 minutes then say game is too hard. And become one of the poisonous imbeciles that that hypocritical fool wrote that article for. The game’s issue is that it’s too “amazing” and needs to be dumbed down? What. The. Fuck? Also for the record, Tag2 IS the dumbest and most accomodating that Tekken has EVER been. Shit is so friendly that I had to change my own fucking mindset to adapt to this one.

I hope all of you know that, without a doubt, humanity is growing more ignorant by the day. In a number of ways. It’s just that fighting game fans want to speed up the process. By this time next year, I expect to have true one button fgs and college courses allowing term papers in text message shorthand format. Goddamn I hate that I know you guys or I’d just play the damn game and avoid all of these forums, sites, and media outlets. Holy fucking shit.

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FlyMike: I’ve been to Charlie’s “once” but it’s exactly what is needed to boost up everyone here…I work 12-8pm Friday so I think I can make it afterwards…

Hiryu: I mean, if you take everything else out of context (from the article) the one main thing I see that makes sense is the game hasn’t “changed” since Tekken 3…players that don’t play the game can be good at it because their character’s basics and spacing haven’t changed hardly at all ever. Sure, they get new moves and B! is added, but in reality you take a guy who has NEVER played TTT2 before (or even T6) and put him down against a newbie in the game that has played for 2 months and the old school player is going to win. Street Fighter has changed just enough in every single series that you have to know about the engine and its nuances. The article itself has a lot of misinformation but if anything an overhaul other than B! needs to be added and not even “dumbing down” the game by any means.

What makes Tekken difficult is the “school” you have to attend in order to play it. You need to know frame data and know about each and every character’s move subset. “Doing” the moves is not hard. Memorizing a combo staple is not hard, but you WILL get caught by stuff if you have not seen it before…

If Tekken was indeed the hardest game ever, all the Tekken players would have a breeze at Street Fighter games and rape everyone but that’s not the case.

It’s usually the same story:
Tekken players say they don’t “like” Street Fighter but in reality they don’t put the time into it.
Street Fighters don’t want to go to “school” for Tekken; they don’t put the time dedicated into it.

It takes way more time to learn Tekken than Street Fighter, but there are still tons of things you need to know about both games and again the only thing I agree upon is the engine needs an overhaul. It’s seriously like playing a prettier version of ST each year with more characters, lol…new players are just not doing to step into the fold and win at TTT2 so as much as the Tekken players always hated the “old school” Street Fighter style, it’s actually come full circle with Tekken at this point, ST style “old men” tournaments…lol

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Jason: Some of your post is confusing.

“but in reality you take a guy who has NEVER played TTT2 before (or even T6) and put him down against a newbie in the game that has played for 2 months and the old school player is going to win. Street Fighter has changed just enough in every single series that you have to know about the engine and its nuances.”

Who is the old school guy in this scenario? The guy who has NEVER player T6? Or the Newbie that has played for 2 months?

Sorry, but I have no idea what is referring to who in that statement.

Anyway, speaking of “school”, aren’t you the same guy who doesn’t know anything about frames in SF yet beats a LOT of people who “know the frames”?

Same thing.

I am confident that for every player like me who reads frames and learns “data” to get better at the game there is gonna be another guy who doesn’t know shit about frames and plays by feel and does really well regardless.

I don’t feel that Tekken has more or less to learn than Street Fighter. And I’m saying this as the guy who researches frames, nuance and properties obsessively. You just learn different stuff. Instead of special move notations or what hit confirms into Ultra, a Tekkenista (my term) learns how to “see” moves and recognize openings in strings.

There is a shit ton of stuff that you CAN learn in SF. God knows I learned a lot of small important details in that game, and studying TTT2 really hard these days shows me there is about the same amount of minutiae in both games. So i don’t really think its a question of going to school for Tekk, you just have to learn the RULES. Like VF, or KOF or anything. Just gotta learn the system and the rules that govern it.

As far as it being the same game since 3, well that does hold some water, but as far as TTT2 is concerned, there is a lot of “new” system stuff that was introduced in this iteration, mostly revolving around the tag system.

SF is still six buttons, variations thereof, specials, supers and variations of those supers. I’d say the most radically different iteration was A3. SF4 hews closely to the roots of the series. I just think it’s funny that when SF4 doesn’t change much in each version and feels close to some of the older games it’s praised for having a “classic feel”, but Tekken is same old same old when it does something similar.

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In reference to what Dimo said about lei’s stance transitions, some of the moves in his movelist mention the transition, but i don’t think they all do.

In some moves, you simply hold a direction to enter stance when its finished, but it doesn’t necessarily tell you that.

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wtf are frames and why do people care? just figure out what works and when to press it, thats what I do.

I don’t play video games to do math and angles and geometry and shit, I play to have fun and sometimes I win things.

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Actually Jason, Tekken players LIKE “old-style” SF and 2D. Which is why a grip of Tekken players played MK9. SF4 and Marvel 3 is the shit they can’t stand.

Old style 2D because like Tekken, this is a remnant of arcade era and adaptability. Newer Tekkens aren’t as broke as older ones and system and KNOWLEDGE allows ways around everything and therefore, any character to beat another without ratio charts and Gief vs Seth matchups. Even though it’s still possible for those characters to win in SF too. But it’s definitely not a common deal which is why it’s so miraculous when it happens. This is why many Tekken players haven’t cared about SF4 since vanilla, despite the fact that it is subjectively less interesting to play for long periods of time imo. It’s just more POSSIBLY that can happen in each match of a sitdown Tekken set than in another SF4 session of Honda vs Rog. I literally see something new in Tekken every gathering. Even at the end of T6. It’s virtually impossible for those games to be fully explored. And I know other characters are winning now in 3s in Japan but this is different lol. Do you understand what I’m saying?

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Also that article is just. . .

Tekken 1 with super combos?

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time to hop on da tekken. Let’s go!

Edit: Also Richard, my man, that’s what I originally thought as well. “WTF, I have to count frames, this is dumb?!” But really, just knowing to throw jabs or do a 12 frame punish, or launch really opens not only a ton of moves defensively but offensively. By offensively, I mean being able to put on smart pressure without doing moves that are unsafe. Eventually, you starting seeing recovery times and saying “Ok…that can’t be safe”. So its not a matter of staring at charts/graphs and memorizing everything. I will show you friday at Charlie some Bob punishes,etc.

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Dude is a genius. When would you even gave time to build meter? Tekken 1, I can kill you right now in one 5 hit combo. Or backdash forever and you’ll never catch me. Tekken 2, maybe a 5 hit combo with an inescapable, unblockable shoulder charge at the end.

I like how people get a computer and think it’s cool to not know what the fuck they’re talking about. Bored idiots.

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PSN: Squabblah
360: Squabbler

This is true with every fighting game … but people are too lazy to just play and learn from it (on the other side).

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I’ve ranted on the same issue of blind idiots wanting to cry until it gets fixed for a couple weeks, now. I’m there with you on every point.

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Man what the hell is going on with he OGs? I’m suprise to see y’all going through the same thing we are in North Carolina! Man I don’t want to see KOF13 the game we all wanted die! We have to go to tournaments, Majors and shit Just stream everything! Playing in cliqeus is Wack! Anyway NEC we going to have a Battle Royal in KOF! Bring your best from your state and less all fight this shit out! Less show the world how KOF gets down!

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Deep, thought provoking convo about Tekken & newer fighting game (read:stupid) players is being had, someone jumps in to talk about KOF…id rather keep talking about Tek.

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Quick question on taunt cancels: so I’m playing Miguel and I want to use taunt cancel which, was 3+4 I believe, to get into his 1,2,1 launcher. (please be patient with my notations, or if I mistake inputs). Am I using things like this during block strings and pressure or more as an oki tool or when I’m at certain distances from the opponent? Does it create mixup from the mind game of seeing me go into taunt stance? Or is this something I should not worry about in the beginning?

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It feels like the Legacy of Kain series at this point. The gameplay is awful but you have to finish the story.

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I can tell you this … I play Miguel and I don’t know a single 2ndary stance move, and I can hang with a few of the decent Memphis players … Sev and others might say I’m “good”, but it’s only b/c of movement. I really don’t think I am “good”, but I can hang with a lot of them just with movement and basic shit.

Stop trying tough things and just play the game for a bit. I seriously can’t stress that enough. And by play I mean, just learn one bnb, a few small mixups / punishes and just go play someone for a long set. WHO CARES if you lose 20 in a row, it’s going to happen. You won’t go anywhere learning all this crazy stuff if you’ve never played against someone. Too much shit will be running through your head in the match. “WHAT SHOULD I DO? THIS CANCEL MOVE OR THIS OR THIS?!”

I’m not even a super Tekken person, but the #1 thing I learned when T6 had a quick rebirth flash of life here is - JUST PLAY against people. You will learn more that way than just sitting in training mode trying crazy shit.

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I feel that. The problem is I haven’t picked up the game yet, so I’m mainly theory fighting. All the questions I have are from a three hour session Sunday that I played with Myles and some online with Jason. I also can’t decide to get it on PSN or xbox. I feel like there are more players from TN on psn, I just find it hard to support the console since I’ve had three die on me (funny side note, I still have my very first run 8gb Xbox, go figure).

I may try to make it to the gathering Friday if there is room and just ask a press conference worth of questions.

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ggs to myles had to run work in am

thank you FlyMike he picked Bryan one game and I remembered your post about that sweep so as soon as he goes for it I low parry the shit out of it. Bless you Flymike

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GGs to Dimo, Vandy, Herb, and Coth…

Still can not understand what to do when I am grounded…it’s just killing me