I’ve been told that, but he’s just so fucking cool. I’m learning the game from scratch anyway so I’m going to pick an easy/ top tier character as my partner. Maybe Bryan or Bob. Or Miguel and have team “Close Fist/Open Palm.”
Zeth: Since I am stubborn and can’t take my own advice, if you are learning the game from “scratch”, an “easy” character is probably correct.
Easy characters to start=
Bob
Bryan (sweep to 50%)
Feng
Hwoarong (low to high stuff is annoying, partial gimmicky once you see it coming)
Christie/Eddy/Tiger
Most players end up having a Mishima on their team but you would need to master some tough moves on a couple of them, but regardless of how “complex” they can be, that is like saying Ryu/Akuma/Ken can be complex at high levels (which they can) but they have the tools even for not “great” players…
It really is going to depend on your style but you will need to stay on 2 characters and maybe a 3rd and not jump because there is too much stuff in the game…
Working to see if we can get some stuff from Mad Catz for Tekken…
I always thought Bryan was considered as pretty hard.
His taunt cancels are not easy to do but I don’t believe he has the same kind of execution barrier as a Mishima or stance heavy character.
Just wanna set some things straight I don’t think is Kaz hard because of EWGF and it’s variations like dewgf or pewgf. I’m pretty consistent now after a couple weeks of practice on both sides. It’s movement and spacing that make him hard. Being able wavedash Korean back dash etc to space out your EWGF to punish wiffed moves etc that’s hard. Knowing all your punishes with him is the very important because your probably only launching shit that -14 or higher because to punish anything faster requires a pewgf which not even Koreans can do 100% of the time btw for Sev the pewgf the fastest one he has is 13f not 12f from what I researched on TZ and can only be done out of the mist step
Lastly doing CH df 2 into EWGF is very hard to do I’ve only done a couple times in practice and is very important to maxing out the damage on that CH. I just stick to doing 314 into combo for now.
I’m very serious on learning Kaz I was just going play King until I got better but fuck it’s best to get these months of ass beatings out the way so I’ll have a pretty good Kaz in the end it may not be the easy road but will be worth it in the end
Not trying to be a dick but I disagree about those chars being easy to learn. All three of them have huge move lists with multiple stances. The only other people missing from the super huge move list category are Ling and Lei.
Easy characters to learn that I would add to that list
Paul
Leo
They have all the basic stuff in the tekken engine easy WS launchers, generic D/F+2’s I think they both have magic 4’s (I know Leo does) each of them has “unseeable lows” and an easy throw game. Leo has stances but not like Lei/Ling/Hwo etc Paul doesnt have any. But Dream is right it doesn’t matter who you pick learning basic movement properly will be the hardest part.
Edit: Josh: Damn I thought perfect was 12f…my bad.
Bryan IS considered a difficult character to learn and play effectively at high level.
But the way people, even Knee, have been using him in TTT2…as some kind of “Hulk Smash” partner. Very few taunt cancels and setups. So it’s hard for me to even tell people not to start out with him in this game if they like him. Even Johnny Nutsaks, who didn’t even own TTT2, was looking hella ok just doing BR combos with him and DJ.
Thing is though, whenever “fun period” is over and you try to win against better players, you may find that without utilizing taunt, movement and his technical stuff, that he’s not a very safe character. Which is why Ernie dropped him. On the offensive and when shit hits, it’s all good. Him and Paul have the SYNERGY-NOLICALS and everything. But indvidually and neutral-game wise if you’re not playing high-level Bryan, this is where “Hulk smash style” gets you raped. And hell, even Johnny Nutsaks tries to taunt a few times a match to get shit off.
But for now, “fun level” Bryan is…fun?
@ Sev: I think he was talking about charas who have gimmicky shit that may get you by at casual and fun level without learning the technical stuff. And as for Slips winning SBa with capos, it’s fucking Slips! And Fab obviously wasn’t familiar with matchup or super rusty on it since Spero Gin quit playing. But welcome the train of capo playing slaws with open arms and ground hitting mids. And not freezing up when you see relax stance. Respect the mixup if they’re already in it. But never let them RUN UP AND RLX IN YOUR FACE. Slips with OG tactics lol.
OK so if I like lei in vf should would I like lei in tekken. Just guessing with the stances
Come on man at fun levels all chars are “fun” lol. At fun levels I didn’t know AK could rush you down and make you scared to twitch or move or think…then I played Majin on Sat smh. Learned some shit though
As for capos Mike is right there are may ways to stop rlx but if you have no clue where to start…generic d+4 stops all that BS.
Edit: GRam- Lei in Tek has about three times the moves and stances compared to Lei in VF. In some ways its the same cause the stances allow all kinds of tricky shit but its a ton more to learn and there is no simple Sabaki system that Tek Lei can take advantage of like VF Lei can at low to mid level play.
@ Graham: Possibly.
On second thought, yes. Do it. Feng and Lei. They got special grabs and winposes together and whatever niggas need these days to feel warm and good inside. If you have any questions, get with Dimo or at the very least play matches against him to see if you even like the character. He’s real good this game and even slightly cheap if you don’t really know how to fight. Any Lei players still bitching about him now are just bitches and still wouldn’t win regardless who they used.
Do you have TTT2 on PS3 or 360?
@ Sev: Yea AK…sigh…
awesome sounds like I’m all set then
Like why the hell does that fool have super fast super + on block moves to go along with those pokes, punishers high dmg and shit. And wtf at DU, DU tag cancel combos say good bye to your red life oh and guess time at the wall when its done on which GT to break.
Majin asked me if I still fucked with Lei cause word was he was improved. There are too many people in this game I like man damn.
IKR?!? OMG. Dimo and Waygamble exposed me to that dumbness. Too many guys crying about Lei after T4 so they fucked with him I guess.
I should’ve dropped by Friday, but played on the other days. Are you still using Baek/Anna? Terrence was forced to pick Anna back up because AOgre is banned at Texas.
I’ve got the 360 version. Not sure what dimo has but I’m guessing the ps3
Still using Baek/Anna some also playing Leo/King. I finally found out Leo was German and well you know…we stick together lol.
The biggest issue for me is I like Baek/Anna/King/AKing/Leo/Lei/Lee/Angel. And I dont even have the basics really down in the game either. I was lazy with learning the right punishers and jumped around too much in T6 as you know. So I am still slaw and undecided. Hell I played Baek/King with Majin and them cause I knew the most about them and it game me the best chance of doing ok vs people even though all my tag stuff was sub par since it was a team I hadn’t broken down. This game for me has the same problem Kang did too many characters look ill. At least with Kang I know 2d fighters so its not as bad lol.
G-Ram add me on XBL: Hiryu ZeroTwo.
I can usually be on a few nights a week between 7-9 PM. I’ll play long sets if you need just be warned in advance I am only playing one team so it can get boring. Sorry, I really grind the training time because its a new team and apparently I’m behind the curve on my chars yet again…
Graham: Bryan is wayyyyyyyyy easy compared to Mishimas, Steve, Nina, Zafina, etc…
Yes, that is what I meant…I am not pretending to be great at at this game nor will I ever be but you can see that when you first start those are the easy gimmick characters you can mess with.
The realization is yes, REALLY good players with avoid the Eddy/Christie mess but you’re going to catch people with that stuff if you aren’t practicing against it…same with Hwo, have to keep those guys AWAY because if you forget how they work, you’re screwed…
Lol, I’m going to play Steve, especially if he relies on CH. I do play Cody in AE. It seems every time a character is mentioned that’s “easy” there is an oh wait moment. Based on character design alone I would play Steve/Hwoarang, which is what I played on TT in my little home town with our scene of 2 back in the day.