Meant to ask this earlier, how are the inputs on 02UM? Because I thought the inputs on 98 were really bad. 02 was semi-tolerable. But I loved the inputs on KOF03 and XI.
Much better, like XI. They fixed the strict inputs on diagonals.
On the other hand, super cancels are much more strict than in XI and XIII, closer to og 2002.
Sylence - Stop trying to convince people to buy a bowl of shit because you think it tastes good.
So after hearing all the complaining about how bad the online is, I decided to try it out for myself. I got about about 100ms ping or so for the 8 matches I played, and I really can’t see how it’s unplayable, in fact it was quite decent. My only guess is it must vary from person to person, cause I don’t see a problem with it as long as your connection rate is ok, as it’s about the same as any other online fighter I’ve played. Maybe people just like to complain, I dunno, but it’s not like you’re gonna be able to pull off uber-combos that require exact timing in ANY online fighter.
Anyway, so there’s my view on it.
Oh clever. I bet you came up with that yourself.
Seriously, what’s wrong with people here? My first post did nothing more than state my personal experience with the game’s online, in response to Keits’ article suggesting that everyone thought the online was a waste. Like I said already, the most you can reasonably expect out of talking about a game’s online in a forum is for people to state what their personal experience has been because an online experience will logically vary from person to person and under different circumstances. But people here would rather ignore that fact before having to pull their head out of their ass - since it sucked/sucks for them for whatever reason, it has to suck equally for everyone, and if it didn’t for me, then I’m wrong.
What did I get in reply to my first post? People laughing at it, people with little or literally 0 actual experience with the game’s online telling me I’m wrong, people pretending to tell me what I can and can’t do in the game, people saying that the fact that I’ve been able to play against people in japan or the caribbean without problem are my “excuses” (wtf?) to say the netcode is good. ALL because bitches can’t believe it’s possible for someone to be having a different experience than they are. You’re so fucking knowledgable and important, it HAS to be the way you think it is, even if you have 0 experience with it yourself.
It’d be delicious for this hate-mongering crowd if I was reciprocating with the same attitude. I’m lying about online being good? I’d reply with no, it’s your internets that SUCK (FACT!!!). I’m lying about being able to pull something off online? I’d reply no, more like your execution sucks and btw you’re a scrub. I’d be a massive shithead, just like you.
Anyway, it’s so like the SRK community in general to band together to spew hate over what a smaller audience has had no problem with. Given that I’m in the obvious minority, I would have thought I’D have to be the one to get over the fact that other people weren’t enjoying it (and definitely, I AM genuinely dissappointed that it’s not working out for other people). But after this dick parade, I guess it’s more like the opposite.
tl;dr
ITT: Ignorant people who play a game online with host advantage and zero knowledge of how the internet works and saying the netcode is decent.
I think the only way for the people who say that the online is good to prove their point is to provide us with a video of you playing someone online as a non-host and doing something that requires strict timing.
lol, only personal experience? Dude said flat out that the game netcode was “seriously great” and that the online play was “totally playable”.
And to support this (which is wrong), all your arguments amount to is “wah, wah you’re wrong guys stop hating plz” peppered with Ad hominems. And then you get salty when someone doesn’t take that nonsense seriously.
I mean, really? When I have access to my friends’ consoles and I use that try out games and shit why would I buy 360? I’m only potentially interested in PS3 and that’s only for what? Tekken 6 and maybe Bullet Witch? Shit’s ridiculous.
No one fucking cares about your “opinion” of the netcode Sylence, except to the extent that it’s wrong and you’re intent on spreading misinformation. What would it take to convince you that it’s trash? An actual lag test? No one would waste their time with it, because the netcode is that bad. Please just stop posting nonsense and derailing the thread with your multiparagrah dork-outs.
Who are the ones refusing to believe that others are having different results than their own? I don’t see that the people saying online works for them are trying to convince others that it should be the same for everyone else, or arguing that other people’s account of bad online is wrong/ignorant/noobish.
It’s as idiotic to pretend that it’s impossible for others to have success online, as it is for someone who IS having success to pretend that anyone’s results would/should be the same as theirs just because they have a vid that proves it. So, objectively, video proof accomplishes nothing. Besides, tell me what reason there is to believe that a vid of successful online stuff would be met here with anything but “that’s not complex enough, not done consistently enough, it’s rigged” etc.
When I said the game was playable and the netcode was great, that was OBVIOUSLY referring to my personal experience. Knowing that you somehow failed to make that association really establishes your position as an unthinking moron in this whole discussion. And thanks for proving my other points further.
Lol, you exactly fit the description of someone who thinks he’s so fucking amazing, things can’t be any other way than what you think it is. So much so, that apparently my saying that online has worked for me is somehow “misinformative”.
You may find this shocking but I’m not persuaded by your tremendous ego to agree that the online is trash solely because you say it is (which is mostly all you’ve attempted here). If it wasn’t obvious already, I’m saying online is fine based on the fact that it’s worked for me before, and that’s all. Maybe you’d realize that’s fairly sensible if you weren’t so obsessed to make me agree with you, and probably didn’t derive so much satisfaction from trying to tell people they’re “wrong” even when they’re only describing a personal experience.
k here’s how it is, the online is trash for the most part, but you can get some “ok” matches in, just dont try anything that requires timing and you’re good to go >__>
it reminds me alot of XII’s netcode, its almost the same as that with the hit-or-miss, only worse as theyre pretty much input delay even in the good matches…
the most logical conclusion is that these guys don’t have much sensitivity to lag. one of them made the assumption that everyone else’s internet had to be worse than his and another made it clear that he didn’t have any exposure to games with actually good netplay (and also that he cant differentiate between uber-combos and bnbs/tactics that show up in almost every decent level match). this may just be speculation, but i’m starting to think that maybe you aren’t playing at a point where this delay makes a difference.
WTF?!?! Have you ever ran into someone who has no skills and DOESN’T complain about netcode? That would be a 1st one for me.
I vaguely remember playing this guy and from what I remember he’s not combo crazy or anything, but he knows his way around.
The netcode is shitty. I have no problem being on that bandwagon. the torches and pitchforks I’m having a hard time understanding.
This game is quite playable for the most part. Funky as hell with how the lag works, yes. It’s not 98UM revisited which is what most people here seem to be painting it. If both parties have a stable ping, the match is pretty stable and playable. If your ping is all over the place then you get problems like the jittery effect and dropped moves. ( Hence why people may say your net provider sucks balls if it’s always bad. This happens a lot more if you live in a big city BTW) If your ping is not stable it doesn’t matter if your ping is under 100m/s. The game will suck. Hence where most people’s gripes come from. I played someone from France with a 170m/s game that was better then someone from the U.S. on a 80m/s ping.
It plays like an xbox 180 game. Neowave if I was thinking of a particular one. It’s shitty, but not completely unplayable…
Dude WTF did you play any of the 360 Playmore titles that have completely sucked? The lag is random. True hosting the session may produce better results more often, but the lag can happen both ways. Seriously you need to play more 98UM & Garou before you complain about the lag sessions. Makes you sound really stupid.
Dude Sylence keeps writing up essays that no-one reads. But that’s cool, as long as people know what’s really up with the netcode and his silly logic there no need to respond to his dumb ass.
Personally I really didn’t want to jump in. He didn’t leave a big impression on me, but I think he was one of the fireball Heidern spammers (again I could be wrong) which I have no respect for (especially since this isn’t 98 where it’s impossible to get around fireballs), but I am getting tired of the misplaced aggression on the game. I have yet to see the lag input go above 1/2 a second.
I’m pissed at it, but I still want to play KOF XIII online. Personally I think Playmore might be stupid enough NOT to include netcode. Either that or make a netcode that plays like CVS2 on xbox 180 (at the way they keep regressing netcode). I want the complaints to be focused where Playmore will actually understand how to fix the netcode (not holding my breath though).
Sylence where did I claim I was awesome and omniscient and whatever other strawman argument you want to pull out of your ass? Drop the persecution complex. Also, where did I even insinuate a personal attack like you did (that I’m some kind of egotist)? You’re dead wrong about the netcode, and your posting style is obnoxious – that’s all I wanted to communicate. To that I’d add that the consensus on this forum says you’re wrong, and all you’ve offered is anecdotal evidence to the contrary. Let’s agree to disagree here and move on to discussing the game itself.
For a game that has shit netcode, there sure is a lot of focus on it the past few pages considering there are better things to talk about with this game.
lmfao this thread. :lol:
waits to read similar complaints when KOF XIII is released
for some people it was going to be the only way they were going to play against someone. kind of pointless to talk about strats vs the cpu huh